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Well It's happened again
Posted by railfan619 on Monday, February 27, 2006 10:20 AM
Hi Everyone
I was watching the news this morning and it has happened again.Yesterday in ixona a small town in western wisconsin where a car went around the gates and got slammed by an amtrak train that was going well over 80 mph. And from what the news showed the car was sherred in half and the guy was killed on impact. Also just lsat week tuesday or wed. Someone in cudahy got hit by a frieght train when her car got stuck on the tracks police thinks that the driver was drunk at the time of the crash. Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. OH the guy that was killed yesterday was only 24 years old and has had 11 driving convictions on his record and just the day before had been convictied of driving with out a licence.
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Posted by edbenton on Monday, February 27, 2006 10:28 AM
Another Darwin award winner. I know that sounds cold but he is no longer in the gene pool.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 11:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619

Hi Everyone
I was watching the news this morning and it has happened again.Yesterday in ixona a small town in western wisconsin where a car went around the gates and got slammed by an amtrak train that was going well over 80 mph. And from what the news showed the car was sherred in half and the guy was killed on impact. Also just lsat week tuesday or wed. Someone in cudahy got hit by a frieght train when her car got stuck on the tracks police thinks that the driver was drunk at the time of the crash. Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. OH the guy that was killed yesterday was only 24 years old and has had 11 driving convictions on his record and just the day before had been convictied of driving with out a licence.



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Posted by videomaker on Monday, February 27, 2006 3:26 PM
We should talk bad about the dead and I hope he knew where his soul would go in the event he's life was over before he wanted it to be...But that was a pittyfully stupid mistake he made...
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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, February 27, 2006 4:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619

Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass.

Actually is more like 30 seconds for Amtrak, and 2-3 min for a freight train.


QUOTE: Videomkaer said:
We should talk bad about the dead and I hope he knew where his soul would go in the event he's life was over before he wanted it to be

DUDE!! Wuts your problem? Why should we talk bad about him? I hope God is with his family.

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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SDR_North



Another, In poor weather.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html


First and Formost, God's speed and blessings to the parties and families involved.

I am curious as to how why the driver of this van, was unable to stop in time, or so he clames? I personally, think that he wasn't paying too much attention to the road ahead. I also do wonder if this particular grade crossing had any flashing lights, and gates avalible, or was this crossing just equiped with just crossbucks? That might be a safety issue. But, anyway the driver should of payed more attention to the road, and should of looked before he hit the grade crossing.
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Posted by solzrules on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:21 PM
A couple of things -
Regarding that Ixonia incident- Amtrak is allowed to do only 79MPH through there. Ixonia is just east of Watertown, WI. This is in the eastern half of WI. The crossing were this happened has gates and lights.

I am sure that this incident will provide more fuel for those who think that railroads should fund idiot resistant gates and lights (the kind designed to withstand the impact of a car). I have heard morons mention this before - that railroads should pay for the installation of car resistant gates and lights and that all crossings should be designed so that it is physically impossible to drive a car around them, similar to the genious in the Ixonia incident. I feel for the family, but in this case the individual willingly placed himself in precarious situation. Not only that, we should then design all intersections to be idiot proof - 4-way stops, clover leaves, on ramps, off ramps, traffic light intersections and so on. In the grand scheme of things, I am sure that train-auto deaths pale in comparison to the number of fatalities in auto on auto accidents.

Here is another story from the Ixonia - Watertown area. A number of years ago (3-4) a teenaged boy was walking down the tracks in Watertown. He thought it would be a great idea to do this wearing a hooded sweatshirt and headphones. Needless to say, the Empire Builder came along just when it was supposed to and hit the boy at speed. He flew an estimated 90 some feet and was still alive when they found him (he didn't survive). The parents sued the train, to quote their terminology.

Yes, you feel bad when accidents happen, and I hope that the Lord will comfort the families involved. But incidents like this are hard to be surprised at, given the actions that led up to the accident.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

Originally posted by railfan619

I hope God is with his family.


I thought Bergie said "no religion"?
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Posted by packers97 on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:50 PM
Yes, I thopught no religion was part of the rules. You might find this hard to belive, but some of us are content aitheists and live perfectly normal, well adjusted lives.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 8:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SDR_North



Another, In poor weather.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html

This guy jumps out to save himself ,kills his kid and his wife ends up in the hospital.
What a coward.He has time to think and jump but he did not try to turn the van to try and take it on his side.( saw the photos )
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 8:34 PM
This is so stupid that's why people need to take responsbility for there own actions.
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Posted by emd_SD_60 on Monday, February 27, 2006 8:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bigedd

Another, In poor weather.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html

This guy jumps out to save himself ,kills his kid and his wife ends up in the hospital.
What a coward.He has time to think and jump but he did not try to turn the van to try and take it on his side.( saw the photos )



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Posted by zardoz on Monday, February 27, 2006 9:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bigeddThis guy jumps out to save himself ,kills his kid and his wife ends up in the hospital.
What a coward.He has time to think and jump but he did not try to turn the van to try and take it on his side.( saw the photos )



I was wondering the same thing. To me it sounds a bit strange. The driver had the TIME and PRESENCE OF MIND to jump out before impact, but not enough time or courage to try and save his family? I know if my wife or kids were facing a life-or-death situation, and I knew the only possible way to save them might cost me my life, I would not hesitate for a second to save them; I love them that much.


Every car I hit during my career was moving when I hit it. Each time the driver was trying to beat the train to the crossing. Each time there was no attempt by anyone to escape the vehicle.

It is not until just before impact that these idiots realize that they are not going to make it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 9:26 PM
Couldn't someone design a self-contained structure (maybe some kind of "road pipe") that could be installed under the track(s) at many crossings at "low" cost?

Road designers in our area are starting to convert some intersections into rotaries, because they reduce accidents, save drivers time, and are cheaper than stop lights in the long run. As I have thought about it, if rotaries had been the custom from the start instead of intersections, driving would be much more fluid and building location more efficient.
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Posted by solzrules on Monday, February 27, 2006 10:27 PM
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I thought Bergie said "no religion"?


Yeah, he did. It is kind of funny how that DOESN'T mean I can never mention god. If you are that insecure with yourself that you can't stand the mention of the word god you should probably invest in some pampers. The saying was meant to be respectful, not start a religious discussion. And my onboard computer censor constitution burner seems to be malfunctioning . . . . . .
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by packers97

Yes, I thopught no religion was part of the rules. You might find this hard to belive, but some of us are content aitheists and live perfectly normal, well adjusted lives.


your signature at the end of your posts mention religion.....hmmmmm? In the religion dept., live and let live. If one cat wants to show respect for somebody by saying a God bless.....why get all butt hurt over it? If some scientologist wants to show his respect by saying an Aliens bless you....let him. If you choose to say nobody bless you, than do it. I myself don't find it hard to believe that an athiest can lead a happy life, I don't care in the least. The God bless statement could have been let ride and everything would have been cool, but, someone had to draw attention to it and BANG.....here we go again and then all of the flaming starts, Bergie steps in and butt kissing appologies fly. Why?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:59 AM
well daamn if there was anyone to hit the nail on the head today, ironken you're it.

i remember this one good country song by sammy kershaw called 'politics, religion and her'. the three main causes for fighting in the world... lol.

i do get tired of hearing about all these grade crossing accidents though. this "darwin award" bull*** is a little on the ignorant side. people die every day as the result of what someone else thinks is stupid. lets fill a forum up with news like that every day. woo.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:15 AM
thanks farmer!
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Posted by TomDiehl on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tomtrain
Road designers in our area are starting to convert some intersections into rotaries, because they reduce accidents, save drivers time, and are cheaper than stop lights in the long run. As I have thought about it, if rotaries had been the custom from the start instead of intersections, driving would be much more fluid and building location more efficient.


If a "rotary" is the same thing as a traffic circle, they're a step in the wrong direction. They work OK on a low density road, but as soon as traffic density picks up, they're a major traffic hazard. New Jersey is in the process of converting these to standard intersections with lights because of the danger.
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Posted by videomaker on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:27 AM
Guys,
Sorry about that,the word NOT was left out by mistake...SHOULD NOT is how it should have read...OK
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Posted by jchnhtfd on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tomtrain

Couldn't someone design a self-contained structure (maybe some kind of "road pipe") that could be installed under the track(s) at many crossings at "low" cost?

Road designers in our area are starting to convert some intersections into rotaries, because they reduce accidents, save drivers time, and are cheaper than stop lights in the long run. As I have thought about it, if rotaries had been the custom from the start instead of intersections, driving would be much more fluid and building location more efficient.

As regards structural separation, this is the obvious solution to the grade crossing problem. However, whether it goes under or over, it is never inexpensive, and the question of who should pay for it is always with us -- particularly for relatively little-used crossings (at which many accidents take place). There are also, in many instances, rather serious problems with access to nearby roads or streets. In general, it has been my experience that the general public is loathe to spend money on grade separation (they often aren't really keen even to pay for crossing gates!), although it is their own safety which is at stake.

On Tom's comment on rotaries/roundabouts. There are many different ways to design these things, and their contribution to improved traffic flow varies tremendously. The roundabouts on the bypass around Edinburgh, Scotland, for example, work phenomenally well under very very heavy traffic conditions (US commuter interstate levels). On the other hand, I know of rotaries which are really dangerous. There is also a driver behaviour factor involved: if you have an agressive type driver population, they do not work as well as a population where drivers are more polite.
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Posted by tormadel on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:32 AM
No sympathy at all for drunks or people to stupid to know not to get in front of a train.
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Posted by motor on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:12 PM
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If a "rotary" is the same thing as a traffic circle, they're a step in the wrong direction. They work OK on a low density road, but as soon as traffic density picks up, they're a major traffic hazard. New Jersey is in the process of converting these to standard intersections with lights because of the danger.


My mother hates traffic circles, even rural rotaries. Cecil County, MD has one of the latter.

Downtown Georgetown, DE has one, with a NS or maybe MD & DE branch a block to the east of the circle. The circle in Georgetown is a *** when a long train of hoppers comes through.

Back to topic. My thoughts are with the family regarding this tragedy.

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Posted by TomDiehl on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jchnhtfd

On Tom's comment on rotaries/roundabouts. There are many different ways to design these things, and their contribution to improved traffic flow varies tremendously. The roundabouts on the bypass around Edinburgh, Scotland, for example, work phenomenally well under very very heavy traffic conditions (US commuter interstate levels). On the other hand, I know of rotaries which are really dangerous. There is also a driver behaviour factor involved: if you have an agressive type driver population, they do not work as well as a population where drivers are more polite.


That last sentence sums up why they're not working well in New Jersey.
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