QUOTE: Originally posted by jchnhtfd On Tom's comment on rotaries/roundabouts. There are many different ways to design these things, and their contribution to improved traffic flow varies tremendously. The roundabouts on the bypass around Edinburgh, Scotland, for example, work phenomenally well under very very heavy traffic conditions (US commuter interstate levels). On the other hand, I know of rotaries which are really dangerous. There is also a driver behaviour factor involved: if you have an agressive type driver population, they do not work as well as a population where drivers are more polite.
QUOTE: If a "rotary" is the same thing as a traffic circle, they're a step in the wrong direction. They work OK on a low density road, but as soon as traffic density picks up, they're a major traffic hazard. New Jersey is in the process of converting these to standard intersections with lights because of the danger.
QUOTE: Originally posted by tomtrain Couldn't someone design a self-contained structure (maybe some kind of "road pipe") that could be installed under the track(s) at many crossings at "low" cost? Road designers in our area are starting to convert some intersections into rotaries, because they reduce accidents, save drivers time, and are cheaper than stop lights in the long run. As I have thought about it, if rotaries had been the custom from the start instead of intersections, driving would be much more fluid and building location more efficient.
QUOTE: Originally posted by tomtrain Road designers in our area are starting to convert some intersections into rotaries, because they reduce accidents, save drivers time, and are cheaper than stop lights in the long run. As I have thought about it, if rotaries had been the custom from the start instead of intersections, driving would be much more fluid and building location more efficient.
QUOTE: Originally posted by packers97 Yes, I thopught no religion was part of the rules. You might find this hard to belive, but some of us are content aitheists and live perfectly normal, well adjusted lives.
QUOTE: I thought Bergie said "no religion"?
QUOTE: Originally posted by bigeddThis guy jumps out to save himself ,kills his kid and his wife ends up in the hospital. What a coward.He has time to think and jump but he did not try to turn the van to try and take it on his side.( saw the photos )
QUOTE: Originally posted by bigedd Another, In poor weather. http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html This guy jumps out to save himself ,kills his kid and his wife ends up in the hospital. What a coward.He has time to think and jump but he did not try to turn the van to try and take it on his side.( saw the photos )
QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 Originally posted by railfan619 I hope God is with his family. I thought Bergie said "no religion"? Reply Edit solzrules Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: SE Wisconsin 1,181 posts Posted by solzrules on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:21 PM A couple of things - Regarding that Ixonia incident- Amtrak is allowed to do only 79MPH through there. Ixonia is just east of Watertown, WI. This is in the eastern half of WI. The crossing were this happened has gates and lights. I am sure that this incident will provide more fuel for those who think that railroads should fund idiot resistant gates and lights (the kind designed to withstand the impact of a car). I have heard morons mention this before - that railroads should pay for the installation of car resistant gates and lights and that all crossings should be designed so that it is physically impossible to drive a car around them, similar to the genious in the Ixonia incident. I feel for the family, but in this case the individual willingly placed himself in precarious situation. Not only that, we should then design all intersections to be idiot proof - 4-way stops, clover leaves, on ramps, off ramps, traffic light intersections and so on. In the grand scheme of things, I am sure that train-auto deaths pale in comparison to the number of fatalities in auto on auto accidents. Here is another story from the Ixonia - Watertown area. A number of years ago (3-4) a teenaged boy was walking down the tracks in Watertown. He thought it would be a great idea to do this wearing a hooded sweatshirt and headphones. Needless to say, the Empire Builder came along just when it was supposed to and hit the boy at speed. He flew an estimated 90 some feet and was still alive when they found him (he didn't survive). The parents sued the train, to quote their terminology. Yes, you feel bad when accidents happen, and I hope that the Lord will comfort the families involved. But incidents like this are hard to be surprised at, given the actions that led up to the accident. ryan You think this is bad? Just wait until inflation kicks in..... Reply CSXrules4eva Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Louisville, KY 1,345 posts Posted by CSXrules4eva on Monday, February 27, 2006 6:01 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by SDR_North Another, In poor weather. http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html First and Formost, God's speed and blessings to the parties and families involved. I am curious as to how why the driver of this van, was unable to stop in time, or so he clames? I personally, think that he wasn't paying too much attention to the road ahead. I also do wonder if this particular grade crossing had any flashing lights, and gates avalible, or was this crossing just equiped with just crossbucks? That might be a safety issue. But, anyway the driver should of payed more attention to the road, and should of looked before he hit the grade crossing. LORD HELP US ALL TO BE ORIGINAL AND NOT CRISPY!!! please? Sarah J.M. Warner conductor CSX Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Monday, February 27, 2006 4:18 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619 Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. Actually is more like 30 seconds for Amtrak, and 2-3 min for a freight train. QUOTE: Videomkaer said: We should talk bad about the dead and I hope he knew where his soul would go in the event he's life was over before he wanted it to be DUDE!! Wuts your problem? Why should we talk bad about him? I hope God is with his family. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply videomaker Member sinceMay 2005 From: Hewitt,TX. 1,088 posts Posted by videomaker on Monday, February 27, 2006 3:26 PM We should talk bad about the dead and I hope he knew where his soul would go in the event he's life was over before he wanted it to be...But that was a pittyfully stupid mistake he made... Danny Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 11:33 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619 Hi Everyone I was watching the news this morning and it has happened again.Yesterday in ixona a small town in western wisconsin where a car went around the gates and got slammed by an amtrak train that was going well over 80 mph. And from what the news showed the car was sherred in half and the guy was killed on impact. Also just lsat week tuesday or wed. Someone in cudahy got hit by a frieght train when her car got stuck on the tracks police thinks that the driver was drunk at the time of the crash. Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. OH the guy that was killed yesterday was only 24 years old and has had 11 driving convictions on his record and just the day before had been convictied of driving with out a licence. Probably a suicidal web troll just wanting to put an end to the curse mother nature played on him...without having to worry about his life insuarance company refusing to pay because the death wasn't "accidental" [^] Reply Edit edbenton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Back home on the Chi to KC racetrack 2,011 posts Posted by edbenton on Monday, February 27, 2006 10:28 AM Another Darwin award winner. I know that sounds cold but he is no longer in the gene pool. Always at war with those that think OTR trucking is EASY. Reply railfan619 Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Somewhere near the tracks 927 posts Well It's happened again Posted by railfan619 on Monday, February 27, 2006 10:20 AM Hi Everyone I was watching the news this morning and it has happened again.Yesterday in ixona a small town in western wisconsin where a car went around the gates and got slammed by an amtrak train that was going well over 80 mph. And from what the news showed the car was sherred in half and the guy was killed on impact. Also just lsat week tuesday or wed. Someone in cudahy got hit by a frieght train when her car got stuck on the tracks police thinks that the driver was drunk at the time of the crash. Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. OH the guy that was killed yesterday was only 24 years old and has had 11 driving convictions on his record and just the day before had been convictied of driving with out a licence. Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by railfan619 I hope God is with his family.
QUOTE: Originally posted by SDR_North Another, In poor weather. http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/02/27/1464435-sun.html
QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619 Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass.
QUOTE: Videomkaer said: We should talk bad about the dead and I hope he knew where his soul would go in the event he's life was over before he wanted it to be
Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."
The Missabe Road: Safety First
QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619 Hi Everyone I was watching the news this morning and it has happened again.Yesterday in ixona a small town in western wisconsin where a car went around the gates and got slammed by an amtrak train that was going well over 80 mph. And from what the news showed the car was sherred in half and the guy was killed on impact. Also just lsat week tuesday or wed. Someone in cudahy got hit by a frieght train when her car got stuck on the tracks police thinks that the driver was drunk at the time of the crash. Like I have said before how long does it usallay take for a train to pass by no more then 10 mintues depending on how long the frieght train is and no more then 2 or 3 minutes for an amtrak train to pass. OH the guy that was killed yesterday was only 24 years old and has had 11 driving convictions on his record and just the day before had been convictied of driving with out a licence.
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