QUOTE: Originally posted by UP_North I'm sure all railroads are different and so are the union locals, but in my area on the UP probation is 120 days and union dues are about 100 dollars a month.
QUOTE: Originally posted by arbfbe inflammable, Compare the wage rates on a non-union shortline with those on a class one. Now compare the wages on the non-union shortline with those at Wal-Mart. Without the unions, wages on the class 1 railroads would be about what the wages are at Wal-Mart. Same level of benefits as well. The same problems of working off the clock. Make a ruckus in the media without the union to go to bat for you and you will quickly be out in the street and be blacklisted from furthur railroad employment. File a lawsuit under which law? Without the union to take your message to Congress, watch decades of safety and labor legislation go out the window in short order. Want proof? Just hire out on the railroad and see how things work and then ask yourself if the railroad management has your best interests at heart.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by inflammable Speaking of unions and dues, I tend to be anti- union, but I don't have a lot of information about them. Do you feel that, if the union were to go away tomorrow, that the Railroad would drop your pay (no time limit on when) to where you would make significantly less? In other words, do you feel that the $100 a month is getting you more money? Keep in mind, that fewer hours also count towards more money. I'm just anti-union in the present day. They were needed and did a good job in the past, keeping the large corporations in line, but I feel that now a days the same can be accomplished with media attention and lawsuits. James
QUOTE: Originally posted by inflammable Where I work at, an armored truck company, when I first started in the spring of 04, everyone had just voted to start a new local of some security guard union. But since most of the people who were for it were on a differentshift, everything kind of died down about it. Fast forward some time, throw in a major lay off, due to our branch losing a major customer (due in part to people not doing a good job), and no one has said anything lately. Except the guy who was there the saturday before Labor Day, getting us all to sign a new petition to officially dissolve the union. It seems that with the union there, but no one did anything with it, we wouldn't get paid for any holiday except Christmas, but with it not there, we can at least make an argument to our management. A couple people still bring it up, about the union, and I've noticed that these people (who I work with), make more money per hour than everyone else, due to time at the company, and also do the least work, due to how our pay system motivates us to work quickly. They will also complain about any extra work, which will pay them more in the same system. But these are just the people that I work with. James
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