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[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

What about LTV Copperweld (merger?)? Where are they located?

East of the Mississippi.

[mudchicken]

Still could be a bare-table move with regular 89 foot cars (JTTX has a gaggle of conventional flatcars where they removed the couplers and connected them with drawbars....plenty of them (several miles worth) have been sitting for years in storage out in the weeds on the former CK&P east of Pueblo (Old MoPac Hoisington Sub).....UPS & FedEx Ground expected to use plenty of 'em for the X-mas rush.

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[Junctionfan]

The ones with draw bars; aren't they the TTEX ones?

[ericsp]

I have seen "Long Runner" flatcars with in the TTEX 353000 and RTTX 165000 series.

[Mookie]

The Rest of the Story:

For the one of you out there that may have read this and are still interested:

Saw the Coors Train - going west - with all the usual tanks, boxcars, etc. About 2-3 cars behind the motors was a flat car - TTX 91222 - had no bulkheads (ends). Had an earth mover strapped to it. Only one flatcar. My imagination runs wild on what Coors needs with an earthmover, but - my thinking is that it had no ends on the flatcar for easier removal of the equipment on and off the flatcar. Run it right to the edge and leap....no, no - just kidding. But it would make sense to me that you would run it down a ramp off one end and load it up the same way.

What I saw on the originals may be the reinforced flooring under the top.

And since they were all coming back from the West - Me thinks Der Mudchicken is building a new coop and needs lots of earth moving equipment. Obviously came up one short and had to send one out on the Coors Train.

End of story for now.

Mook

[tree68]

We regularly have a yard full of empty flats where I work - they are used to haul military equipment in and out. Sometimes they store some of them here, 60-70 or more, stretched down a dead-end track, with breaks for any roads that cross the lead.

We also have some flats come in configured for containers.

[Mookie]

With or without ends on them?

[CShaveRR]

Now, dear Sister,

Was that 91222 car just like the ones you saw before?

It would have had another letter ahead of "TTX"--most likely OTTX. The number series (regardless of reporting mark) means that it's a 60-foot car, and the chains and so on that were holding MC's new baby to it are considered to be part of the car. I mentioned these OTTX cars in my previous post on this thread. Those cars are usually good for two or three John Deere tractors when I see 'em, and I seldom see the cars going through here one at a time--loaded or empty.

[Mookie]

Nope - looked really carefully and even knoodged the driver - it said TTX - I did everything but taste the paint on it to make sure!

Still haven't heard if it was a special train of no-ended flat cars just for a specific reason and the ends will be stuck back on? Any clues?

(Think long landing strip for MC....)

SJ

[mudchicken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie


(Think long landing strip for MC....)

SJ

Think BIG sand pile at the end of the runway[:D]

Suspect that big Cat might be headed to Wagner Equipment at Prospect Jcn. / Denver (Passes under I-25 near BN/BNSF/CB&Q/C&S Globeville Yard and Rennick TOFC Yard that the beer train switches en route to Golden....)

Also, Johns-Manville in Pueblo (near Bragdon/Eden) makes large diameter plastic water transmission pipe (The sea-foam green colored stuff) in 50 foot sections that goes out banded on six high 89 foot flats. (not really heavy, just long)

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[icmr]

Cool.



ICMR

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[dldance]

I saw 5 earthmovers being unloaded here in Austin in August ( I was looking at the circus train.) The earthmovers were on 60 foot flats.

Ed has been playing with long flats over at the port - maybe you saw and empty windmill train?

dd

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Nope - looked really carefully and even knoodged the driver - it said TTX - I did everything but taste the paint on it to make sure!

I think that when TTX changes the reporting marks, sometimes they do a bad job. I have seen several RTTX flatcars where the R was barely visible or gone (I could barely make out a change in the color of paint where the R was, and I have to look at it for a while).

[Mookie]

And that is a good possibility -

I will keep looking and see what other anomolies I can find.....[:D]