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QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR I know I'm not using Briti***erminology, but I hope some of what I'm describing is clear. Most of the crossings near Rochelle are grade crossings (level crossings, I guess you'd say). Interstate 39, of course, crosses over the UP tracks on overpasses east of the city, and Interstate 88 crosses over BNSF on overpasses south of the city. Illinois 251 (used to be the main north-south highway before I-39 was built) now has an overpass that crosses both main lines just to the east of the diamond. Things were a mess before that was built. The UP line is two main tracks in both directions from Rochelle. Since it is CTC, either track can be used in either direction, as the dispatcher sees fit. There is a crossover between the tracks at Dement Road, about two miles east of the diamonds. There's another one at the west end of Global 3, about five miles to the west.. BNSF has two tracks for some distance either side of the city, but this is basically a single-track line. I'm not sure if there are any crossovers in the entire two-track stretch. There is a small yard about a mile east of the diamonds. If it is known that trains are going to encounter delays in going through Rochelle, they will often be held back to keep the grade crossings clear. Your question about the cost of delayed commerce is a good one. Part of the reasoning behind CREATE (the Chicago-area proposal to basically re-draw the railroad map of the city) is to cut this time down significantly; up to 25 new grade separations betwen roads and railroads are part of the plan. Sarah, some of the stalled trains out here are long enough to cut a suburb in half. Many of the suburbs have firehouses on both sides of the tracks for that reason. If an emergency vehicle should need to get across the tracks, it usually takes the route that has a grade separation, even if it is less direct.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Old Limey Sitting here in Kent UK and watching two freights coming towards me at Rochelle at the same time is interesting. However I have noticed once before the move to rival tracks and suspect this is to keep the junction from 'Gumming' up but can someone tell me what the track layout is behind me on the left hnd side.Is it another switch to get the trains back on the correct track heading East? Another question is how do the public put up with the long delays on crossings when all this traffic movement goes on?Emergency vehicles must have a really rough time of it. It took ten minutes the other day for one train to pass by.
Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I meant someone from the UK @ Daggett last summer was that you? In any case that track leads to a manufacturing company that is not seen on the cam. There is a little yard their about 7/ 8 tracks also not seen on the cam. The yard is accessable from both the UPRR & BNSF tracks. [8D] QUOTE: Originally posted by Old Limey Sitting here in Kent UK and watching two freights coming towards me at Rochelle at the same time is interesting. However I have noticed once before the move to rival tracks and suspect this is to keep the junction from 'Gumming' up but can someone tell me what the track layout is behind me on the left hnd side.Is it another switch to get the trains back on the correct track heading East? Another question is how do the public put up with the long delays on crossings when all this traffic movement goes on?Emergency vehicles must have a really rough time of it. It took ten minutes the other day for one train to pass by.
Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 8:14 AM I was at MSH live & in person last year. Spectular view. I also met several people who were staying at the motel I was staying at that were affected by the explosion as they lived west of the mudslide & floods that were the result of the eruption. It will take reams of words to explain what occurred to relay thereeye witness account. They said they saw rail cars go floating by. I was lucky to get such a 1st hand review of what occurred on the aftermath of the explosions. [:(] My question was were you in California in Sept 04? If you were not please disregard the question. [:D] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:10 AM i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:37 AM What pix are you looking for? [:D] I could make a diagram of what is behind the trees if you send your address to spbed@yahoo.com [:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by Goatherder_ i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 10:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome. I to always wondered what that track led to also. That is why I visited there? Are U really from NJ? I lived most of my life in Monmouth County. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Yes, I live in Suusex County, New Jersey. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 11:00 AM Nice country their. Prettier to the eye then Monmouth[:D] Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by Old Limey Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 8:14 AM I was at MSH live & in person last year. Spectular view. I also met several people who were staying at the motel I was staying at that were affected by the explosion as they lived west of the mudslide & floods that were the result of the eruption. It will take reams of words to explain what occurred to relay thereeye witness account. They said they saw rail cars go floating by. I was lucky to get such a 1st hand review of what occurred on the aftermath of the explosions. [:(] My question was were you in California in Sept 04? If you were not please disregard the question. [:D] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:10 AM i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:37 AM What pix are you looking for? [:D] I could make a diagram of what is behind the trees if you send your address to spbed@yahoo.com [:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by Goatherder_ i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 10:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome. I to always wondered what that track led to also. That is why I visited there? Are U really from NJ? I lived most of my life in Monmouth County. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Yes, I live in Suusex County, New Jersey. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 11:00 AM Nice country their. Prettier to the eye then Monmouth[:D] Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:10 AM i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 9:37 AM What pix are you looking for? [:D] I could make a diagram of what is behind the trees if you send your address to spbed@yahoo.com [:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by Goatherder_ i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it? Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 10:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome. I to always wondered what that track led to also. That is why I visited there? Are U really from NJ? I lived most of my life in Monmouth County. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Yes, I live in Suusex County, New Jersey. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 11:00 AM Nice country their. Prettier to the eye then Monmouth[:D] Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by Goatherder_ i must be blind i can't find it. would some one post a link to a good pic of it?
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome. I to always wondered what that track led to also. That is why I visited there? Are U really from NJ? I lived most of my life in Monmouth County. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Yes, I live in Suusex County, New Jersey. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 11:00 AM Nice country their. Prettier to the eye then Monmouth[:D] Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by NJMike Originally posted by Old Limey Yes, I live in Suusex County, New Jersey. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 21, 2005 11:00 AM Nice country their. Prettier to the eye then Monmouth[:D] Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by Old Limey
Originally posted by NJMike Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:31 AM Sussex county is pretty good. It's not the best and it is not the worse. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:49 AM Surely not yet as densely populated as Monmouth was when I left 8 years ago. Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by NJMike [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 PM Strange that talk has got round to Sussex as I was born in Sussex just before WWll at a place called Barcombe Mills near Lewes now the County Town of East Sussex. I lived in Sussex until I went into the RAF to do my National Service but I now have lived longer in Kent. Barcombe Mills was on the "Bluebell Line" http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/ but not now active as the track has been removed. I suppose this may have been the start of my interest in Steam although I was to young to appreciate it at the time. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:25 AM We were discussing Sussex county in NJ not the UK as he lives now in NJ & I lived in NJ most of my life. [:D][:o)][:)] Originally posted by Old Limey [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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