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Empire Builder is on the ground in Montana with three dead and 50 injured

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Posted by Euclid on Monday, November 22, 2021 12:31 PM

Overmod

 

 
I have no problem with people waiting for the NTSB to provide definitive information.  I look forward to it.  In the meantime, there is plenty for “we as outsiders” to consider.

 

However, in the absence of definitive information, there is little if any actual sense in further 'consideration'.  That is particularly true if it involves dog-with-a-bone repetition of truisms or dog-returning-to-vomit endless rehash of the same idea in different wordings.

 

Just wait for definitive discussions of actual cause.  Or if you hear rumors, check and cite the source first if you feel the need to comment on them.

 

I disagree.  There is plenty of worthwhile discussion related to the derailment, and particularly to its cause.  I follow the rules here.  I don’t hijack threads, start off-topic threads, or insult others.  I don’t go into other threads and lecture the participants about the nature of their discussion.
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Posted by Fred M Cain on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 11:39 AM

It's now been just a couple of months shy of a year since this derailment in Montana.  Are there any clues yet as to what might have caused it?  I was hoping to hear something by now.  Searching Google news has turned up nothing recent.

Maybe the NTSB needs more time but I was also wondering about the possibility that we might never know.

The wreck of the Southwest Chief in Missouri was tragic but at least we know what happened there.

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 12:36 PM

Fred M Cain

It's now been just a couple of months shy of a year since this derailment in Montana.  Are there any clues yet as to what might have caused it?  I was hoping to hear something by now.  Searching Google news has turned up nothing recent.

Maybe the NTSB needs more time but I was also wondering about the possibility that we might never know.

The wreck of the Southwest Chief in Missouri was tragic but at least we know what happened there.

 

I have not seen any other news on it since it happened and was intially covered.  I am not expecting any more news until 18 months at least.  I am quite interested in the cause of that derailment.  

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 4:25 PM

The wreck pictres did show the inside rail broken.  that might have been caused by the train striking the rail NE of collision that relieved stress on that rail allowing a sun kink?

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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 5:21 PM

I wonder what happens in a case like this if the NTSB simply cannot find the cause of the derailment?

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 5:37 PM

Euclid

I wonder what happens in a case like this if the NTSB simply cannot find the cause of the derailment?

 

The odds of an admission like that are very low, but if they find no cause, they will repeat a bunch of recommendations they have made elsewhere.

Beat the drum. Be important!

Mac

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