QUOTE: Originally posted by u6729csx Does England have anywhere near the number of road crossings as the railroads in the US have????
QUOTE: Originally posted by u6729csx Does England have anywhere near the number of road crossings as the railroads in the US have???? Secondly, I don't think trains in the UK or the continent for that matter are constructed to have anywhere near the collision strength of US equipment.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by admiles Just to update everyone. I live in the Uk and am a driver (engineer) for one of the UK rail companies. The death toll has now risen to 7, including two young children age 7 and 15. It seems that it could well have been a suicide attempt as the car was stopped on the tracks when the barriers came down. An off-duty police officer shouted at the car driver to get out of the car, but he didn't do so. When the barriers came down the officer called the signalling center to try to stop any trains in the area, but was too late, like someone here said things happen very quickly at 100+ mph. I belive the line speed at the accident site was 110 mph, the trains themselves are capable of 125 mph. From my point of view (as an engineer) trains here tend to push cars on crossings to one side when they hit, rarely derailing the train. This is the first crossing accident in 18 years where passengers onboard the train have been killed. If the suicide theory turns out to be true, if of course we ever find out, I just wi***o God the car driver hadn't been so selfish, he could have killed hundreds (300+ on the train).
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kozzie QUOTE: Originally posted by admiles Just to update everyone. I live in the Uk and am a driver (engineer) for one of the UK rail companies. The death toll has now risen to 7, including two young children age 7 and 15. It seems that it could well have been a suicide attempt as the car was stopped on the tracks when the barriers came down. An off-duty police officer shouted at the car driver to get out of the car, but he didn't do so. When the barriers came down the officer called the signalling center to try to stop any trains in the area, but was too late, like someone here said things happen very quickly at 100+ mph. I belive the line speed at the accident site was 110 mph, the trains themselves are capable of 125 mph. From my point of view (as an engineer) trains here tend to push cars on crossings to one side when they hit, rarely derailing the train. This is the first crossing accident in 18 years where passengers onboard the train have been killed. If the suicide theory turns out to be true, if of course we ever find out, I just wi***o God the car driver hadn't been so selfish, he could have killed hundreds (300+ on the train). admiles, you make a very interesting point when you said that trains usually push cars aside when they hit, and not usually derailing.....last night here downunder on the TV news an interesting point was raised. Apparently it's suspected that the Plymouth express did indeed pu***he car out of the way, and continued down the tracks, then derailed at a switch, which is what caused such a dramatic derailment. Has anyone else heard that theory mentioned? Dave
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QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt QUOTE: Originally posted by Kozzie QUOTE: Originally posted by admiles Just to update everyone. I live in the Uk and am a driver (engineer) for one of the UK rail companies. The death toll has now risen to 7, including two young children age 7 and 15. It seems that it could well have been a suicide attempt as the car was stopped on the tracks when the barriers came down. An off-duty police officer shouted at the car driver to get out of the car, but he didn't do so. When the barriers came down the officer called the signalling center to try to stop any trains in the area, but was too late, like someone here said things happen very quickly at 100+ mph. I belive the line speed at the accident site was 110 mph, the trains themselves are capable of 125 mph. From my point of view (as an engineer) trains here tend to push cars on crossings to one side when they hit, rarely derailing the train. This is the first crossing accident in 18 years where passengers onboard the train have been killed. If the suicide theory turns out to be true, if of course we ever find out, I just wi***o God the car driver hadn't been so selfish, he could have killed hundreds (300+ on the train). admiles, you make a very interesting point when you said that trains usually push cars aside when they hit, and not usually derailing.....last night here downunder on the TV news an interesting point was raised. Apparently it's suspected that the Plymouth express did indeed pu***he car out of the way, and continued down the tracks, then derailed at a switch, which is what caused such a dramatic derailment. Has anyone else heard that theory mentioned? Dave Dave, Do you all get any information any faster than we do?(U.S.) I would like to keep in touch with this article. At point in time I can not even come up with a theory.
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C Guys, Here is a link to the BBC Website; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/04/rail_crash/html/3.stm This shows a plan of the scene. If it is correct, the car remained on the track and the train ran over it. It is most likely that the train was derailed, but remained upright and in line until it hit the switch. Marks on the ties would indicate this to investigators. Peter
QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish A high speed Briti***rain from London to Plymouth hit a vehcile at a grade crossing. At least six people are dead, many injured, and all the cars left the tracks and apparently most went on their sides. The engineer was among the dead. No word on how a vehicle got on the tracks.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kozzie QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C Guys, Here is a link to the BBC Website; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/04/rail_crash/html/3.stm This shows a plan of the scene. If it is correct, the car remained on the track and the train ran over it. It is most likely that the train was derailed, but remained upright and in line until it hit the switch. Marks on the ties would indicate this to investigators. Peter Peter Thanks for that link. No doubt the investigation will examine all the angles and clues. Doesn't seem to be a lot of protection for the engineer. Similarly, I had a long conversation with one of the engineers of our tilt trains here in Queensland (they have a somewhat similar shape to the UK Class 43 - the train, not the engineer heh heh), and he said that the cab for the tilt train was designed as a crumple zone with a strengthened bulkhead separating the cab from the first class passenger seating. Not much comfort for the engineers! [:0] Dave
QUOTE: Originally posted by admiles Just to update everyone. I live in the Uk and am a driver (engineer) for one of the UK rail companies. The death toll has now risen to 7, including two young children age 7 and 15........
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