Ex-LMX RLCX B39-8's!!!

[UPTRAIN]

[;)]I've spotted two of these weird locomotives in the last couple days. On 10-30-04 I spotted UP SD60 2160 (I have an HO scale model of that one and NO PIX [:(!][banghead][censored]) and ex-LMX (in red, white, and grey paint.) with a big red RLCX on the side where the LMX used to be. It had it's original number of 8598. One day later, on the 31st, parked on Junland siding just east of Poplar Bluff, MO, was UP SD70M 4528 (last of the first three original flagged UP units), LMX/RLCX B39-8 8513, and UP C44AC 7109. What is the name of the leasing company? Where is it based? Where are they being re-lettered at? Info will be appriciated! Thanks![:D][:)][:p][}:)]

[oskar]

try going to the TRAINS.com fourm go to general diss. Look for a topic that says RLCX somebody posted where it is based at

snice UP TRAIN had a model of a real unit Ihave one it's CSX 7564 I have seen it 3 times. And it wecked in Gooseneck,NC it's in a video back and the early 90's it wecked with CSX 8441 ex UP




kevin

[Junctionfan]

Saw a couple going through Fostoria when I was there. They remind me of ex TFM or KCS units. Are they?

[SSW9389]

I saw one of the RLCX B39-8s the other day near the Ford Kentucky Truck Plant. They do get around!

[railman]

Trains.com forum has been very quiet lately and the same people go there as do here...prolly get the most reaction on here.

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Saw a couple going through Fostoria when I was there. They remind me of ex TFM or KCS units. Are they?

No, actually they're more like ex-BN, but not really. The LMX units were leased to the BN on a "power by the hour" basis, just like the Oakway/EMD SD60s that I think the BNSF still uses. (Anybody know for sure?) And just like the Oakways were painted in EMD demo colors, the LMXs were painted in GE demo colors.

-Mark
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken

[Randy Stahl]

Hey Zach, I got a bunch of them here in Maine.
Randy

[M636C]

One reason they look like old NdeM units is that they have the same cab as many NdeM "super 7" locomotives. Relatively few Dash 8s were built with "standard" cabs (except on NS of course, they only stopped getting them when GE put the price up so far they finally agreed to wide noses.)

Peter

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Saw a couple going through Fostoria when I was there. They remind me of ex TFM or KCS units. Are they?

No, actually they're more like ex-BN, but not really. The LMX units were leased to the BN on a "power by the hour" basis, just like the Oakway/EMD SD60s that I think the BNSF still uses. (Anybody know for sure?) And just like the Oakways were painted in EMD demo colors, the LMXs were painted in GE demo colors.

-Mark
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken

Those are the grey B dash 8s or are thease different coloured locomotives all together?

[eolafan]

It seems that about six years ago or so we could hardly see a train on the BNSF through our town of Aurora, IL without seeing a LMX unit on it....they were as common falling leafs this time of year...now you don't see any (or hardly any) at all. Until about eight months ago there were a couple dozen of them stored at the BRC Clearing Yard and I would see them bunched together, stacks capped, in the BRC as I was flying into Midway Airport in Chicago, now...NOTHING THERE. They were in the BRC yard for about two or more years.

[Anonymous]

Yes they do make their way around the country. I used to see them all the time on the BN before the merger as LMX units. They were also one of the few loco models to have stobe lights instead of ditch lights for a couple years. Here's a recent train through northern MN with one in the consist.

[Anonymous]

RLCX stands for Relco.

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

One reason they look like old NdeM units is that they have the same cab as many NdeM "super 7" locomotives. Relatively few Dash 8s were built with "standard" cabs (except on NS of course, they only stopped getting them when GE put the price up so far they finally agreed to wide noses.)

Peter

Actually, I think the reason they look like KCS/TFM units is because they are gray.

I would disagree with your statement that "relatively few" Dash 8s were built with standard cabs, by my rough estimate I'd say it's more like half... or more than half! SP, UP, Santa Fe, C&NW, Conrail, NS, and CSX (and the aforementioned LMX) all bought standard cab Dash 8s. UP, Santa Fe, Conrail (and also LMS), CSX, and Amtrak bought the widecabs. Of course the Canadians just HAD to be different, BCOL and CN bought widebody Dash 8-40CMs.

Now the Dash 9s, on the other hand, only had NS as "spartan cab" customers, all the rest were widecab.

-Mark
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken

[Anonymous]

There was a LMX / RLCX ( Relco ) unit up here in Fond Du Lac,Wi in September.The unit was # 8500.It was hooked up with CSX GP38-2 # 2700,and HLCX ex BN sd40-2 #7175. I got the pix on all three of these units,as well as the UP coal train derailment that happened the same day,on the Southern part of the FDL yard.

[UPTRAIN]

The Oakways are almost like the demonstrator schemes, but not quite. Compare some pix, they are slightly different. The LMX/RLCX units are still in the old grey scheme that was seen all over BN before the merger. I can just remember seeing these in Trains in 1993 or 1994 for the power by the hour, they leased even Metro North B23-7's, yes they were pretty desperate!

[Anonymous]

I have also seen a couple of those on the CSX River Line.

[UPTRAIN]

Well, I'm gonna bring this topic back up...I saw another one and got pix this time today!



....or see them at: http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=61855 and http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=61856 ....If ya go to the URL's that will count towards my page views! [:P] Thanks Yall!

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

One reason they look like old NdeM units is that they have the same cab as many NdeM "super 7" locomotives. Relatively few Dash 8s were built with "standard" cabs (except on NS of course, they only stopped getting them when GE put the price up so far they finally agreed to wide noses.)

Peter

Actually, I think the reason they look like KCS/TFM units is because they are gray.

I would disagree with your statement that "relatively few" Dash 8s were built with standard cabs, by my rough estimate I'd say it's more like half... or more than half! SP, UP, Santa Fe, C&NW, Conrail, NS, and CSX (and the aforementioned LMX) all bought standard cab Dash 8s. UP, Santa Fe, Conrail (and also LMS), CSX, and Amtrak bought the widecabs. Of course the Canadians just HAD to be different, BCOL and CN bought widebody Dash 8-40CMs.

Now the Dash 9s, on the other hand, only had NS as "spartan cab" customers, all the rest were widecab.

-Mark
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken

UP also bought many 8-40C (standard nose).

[UPTRAIN]

Not UP...they got theirs from SP and SSW at the merger.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by UPTRAIN

Not UP...they got theirs from SP and SSW at the merger.

Neighter SP nor SSW ever owned any 8-40C. Are we just talking about B models? I know the thread is about only B models. However Mark (fuzzybroken) did not specify only B models in his response. Furthermore, He listed UP for the wide nose locomotives. I do not recall of hearing about UP 8-39BW, 8-40BW, or 8-41BW, nor does UP list them on its roster (http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/locorost2003.shtml). Therefore I am assuming he is including C models.

[UPTRAIN]

The only dash 8s that UP bought new were C40-8W's and C41-8W's. They got some standard cab dash 8s at merger from the SP and SSW. They were B40-8s that some were formerly B39-8's.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by UPTRAIN

The only dash 8s that UP bought new were C40-8W's and C41-8W's. They got some standard cab dash 8s at merger from the SP and SSW. They were B40-8s that some were formerly B39-8's.

What about UP 9100-9355? I seem to recall in the late 80s to early 90s that UP bought these new, they are 8-40Cs. They are standard cab (you can check UP's roster or look at photographs).Also, UP got 8-40Cs from CNW. I know about the unfortunate circumstances surrounding UP getting 8-39Bs and 8-40Bs.

http://ncespee.railfan.net/UP/updash8-40c/updash8-40c.html

[M636C]

Yep, I'd agree with that! Somewhere I've got an early Bachmann Spectrum model of an early UP Dash 8 with a conventional cab, and I bought it long before UP merged with SP!

Peter

[garr]

Didn't the LMX units get the nickname "sharks" because of the grey color and the dorsal fin-like, triangular white paint on the side?

Jay