....and the real estate industry counts on this. They (real state agents, a sizable number of them) want their 4-7% commission without working for it or understanding it (right up there with used car salesmen)... Also, title insurance ain't all it's cracked up to be. When the title company screws up, regularly from what we see, they get really squirrely when having to pay for damages.
Too bad we aren't in the habit of "test driving" houses - you know, stay for several days in the house, to get a feel for the neighborhood.
Then, again, that would probably kill some sales...
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when i lived near the new england dragway we went thru this & people would complain about the noise & want to shut it down, well at the meeting they would explain to the home owners that they were will to shut down but that they home owners would soak up the taxes for the land & the fire dept that the dragway paid for & well suddenly it always ok to continue for another 5 or so seasons lol
The UP main' in Omaha is about to be abandoned; we, U.S. in the Paul Harrr-vV definition, don't have enough regulations or laws.
That claim in a sale's "pitch" should be at least a "foul ball" if not an "out" or an "ejection."
Frawd, frod, FRAUD, it's that no matter how you spell it. Why can't that statement be criminal? Another regulation or law?
And my home is a quarter mile south and a 150 ft above the "upgrade" track, and about nearly a mile from the down grade track and about a 1 and a half miles from Int. 80 on the west slope on the climbing side of the Sierra Nevada.
Noise: Run 8 upgrade. Squealing brake shoes, DB's screaming, "whistling" for Luther and Auburn Ravine crossings.
Our real estate seller never diminished the noise when he attempted to sell us what we bought.
Further discussing: the "Jake Brake" popping wakes me, but, maybe it's my cat shuffling on my bod', trucker's, severe downgrade, watcha' gonna" do? Ignore the sign reading NO JAKE BRAKES PLEASE?
Jake Brakes.....1961 to 1964, I found my way across the country on my Union due's Receipts, and a Condr. out of Sparks, carried me from Ogden,
In a 'Dome" i sat across the aisle from two men who, after I was asked about my experience and technical knowledge; I had asked about its, the Jake Brake, apllicability to locomotives.
They asked back about regulation. That it was gradulated, timely in anticipation and that it was very precisely anticipated over long distances; That the "Jake Brake" converted an engine from a graduated pulling power device into a braking device that is "on" or "off.".....don't know what I said that might have.....destinity?
We, they, father and son of Clessie Cummins, were traveling east, me home, and them to the Jacob's chuck manufacturer in (RI) The infancy of the Jacob's Engine Brake.
Did I influence transportation's future?
You probably did.
There are specific ways to sound-isolate the interior of houses, and it isn't rocket science or costing putting a man on the mon. Double-glazing with storm windows, air-condidtining-central heating, gasketed heavy doors, etc. Lot of people lead happy lives while living in the main flight paths of airports all over North America. For a local problem pull the websites of the National Council of Acoustical Consultants and the Institute of Noise Control Engineering and hire a nearby consultant for a half-day consulting. Should run beween half a grand to a grand. Personally, I would recommend a Board Certified Member of the Institute of Noise Control Engineering. If he also belong to NCAC, even better.
Boyd There was an article in Mondays Minneapolis Star Tribune of people in the north metro "who live near the CP or CN tracks",,,,, complaining about more noise from increased rail traffic. Do the RRs pay one person a nice salary to answer the phones from these people? I could just imagine the replies to callers: did you see RR tracks near your house before you bought it?
There was an article in Mondays Minneapolis Star Tribune of people in the north metro "who live near the CP or CN tracks",,,,, complaining about more noise from increased rail traffic. Do the RRs pay one person a nice salary to answer the phones from these people? I could just imagine the replies to callers:
did you see RR tracks near your house before you bought it?
This thread and the initial post concerned increased noise levels. Folks may have known full well there was a rail line nearby when they bought a house one to twenty years earlier and were just fine with the traffic and its accompanying noise level But what about double or triple the traffic level or even more? Totally different matter, not so facilely dismissed as NIMBYism.
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One, if there is a railroad track there is potential for trains and noise increases or decreases. Two, noise levels vary by foliage growth, seasonal changes, new equipment and results of new applied physics. Three, nobody noticed until somebody brought the matter up. I remember in my home town where the railroad first arrived around 1840 and the train traffic grew, another line was built and this resulted in more traffic and then thing began to wane with no long distance passenger trains and no freight trains, But hourly commuter traffic has continued and thrives with fewer trains. But the blowing of grade crossing bent somebody out of shape, a Newbie who became a Nimby. And the mayor of the town, a lifetime resident, took on the railroad on behalf of the new voters as if it was all new to him! Today, the constant din raising into the hills from the Interstate coupled with the holding patterns for the major airports 25 to 40 miles away is louder and more constant than anything a week of rail traffic of 1950 ever produced. It's all perception and not really a new thing.
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In a 'Dome" I sat across the aisle from two men who, after I was asked about my experience and technical knowledge; I was asked about its, the Jake Brake, aplicability to locomotives.
They asked back about DB regulation. ' Told them it was gradulated, timely in anticipation and that it was very precisely anticipated over long distances; That the "Jake Brake" converted an engine from a graduated pulling power device into a braking device that is "on" or "off.".....don't know what I said that might have.....destinity?
We, they, Clessie Cummins, father and son, were traveling east, me home, and them to the Jacob's chuck manufacturer in (RI) The infancy of the Jacob's Engine Brake.
I vote that indeed you did!
I've noticed that the truck noise factor in several Chicago suburbs has been addressed by local ordinances which banned engine braking by trucks. I've often wondered if such ordinances are safety hazards.
My recollection was that the land around Chicago was relatively flat, with the elevation differences between hill and dale being less than 100'. Since the potential energy of dropping 100' is less than the kinetic energy of stopping from 60MPH, the issue with banning engine braking would be one of brake wear and not safety. On the other hand, the brake shoe dust is probably an environmental hazard (copper bearing brake pads are in the process of being banned in parts of Calif).
Where engine braking is a safety issue is in long downgrades, with drops of several hundred feet or more.
- Erik
Not just Chicago and not just urban areas - I have notice 'no engine braking' signs in numerous places - in towns both large and small and including in areas where trucks are required to stop for toll booths.
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Just as further fuel for the fire, we have traversed the CP/CN track that has raised complaints in the St. Paul/Minneapolis area. There are trespassers (and their dogs) around every corner. The right of way is wide in places and makes a nice walking area. The grade crossings have very poor visibility and we blow the whistle as much as we can. When the line crosses Highway 61 just north of White Bear Lake, MN the cars cross in front of the train until the last moment (long after the lights are flashing -- there are no gates). We just hope that one more car doesn't try to make it. The drivers don't want to wait for what could be a long one (ours is a short -- 500' -- one). I am always surprised that we don't have more grade crossing accidents in the Twin Cities as there are many very busy crossings.
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