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Train vs Truck= Train Loses?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:07 AM

These off road trucks come in a whole range of sizes, some of which are carried on a flatcar, fully assembled.  Those are at the tiny end of the size range.  The Cat 797 shown in the first post is at the large end of the range.

 

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Posted by gardendance on Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:53 AM
 Modelcar wrote:

.....I think the condition will rarely have a chance to happen.  Those trucks are not going to be operated on highways....They are simply too large to fit.  They almost always are used off road at construction or mining.

But if they wanted to, and found a highway wide enough to fit, who's going to stop them? Or do we have to change the thread title to "Bridge vs Truck"?

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:12 AM

.....And maybe "State Police" against truck, operator and owner.

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Posted by Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760 on Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:46 PM

Yes, trainfan1221, that is the book. The caption to the photo said that it was a UP passenger train that hit a tanker truck.

A horrible example of a train losing because someone was an idiot behind the wheel.

So many scales, so many trains, so little time.....

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:05 PM
Definitely a haunting image.  You are right about that and there are no winners in this case, just unwarranted loss of life.
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Posted by NP Red on Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:19 PM

Since some of you are seriously trying to analize this accident senario, I'll put in my 2 cents.

1. I don't think 2 locomotives and 150 coal cars would do any move damage than 2 locomotives and 10 coal cars. It seems to me that only the first dozen cars would transfer energy to the collision point. At that point the train has buckled and car are going in all directions.

2. The energy from a moving train would be located about 4 feet off the ground (I think). This accident senario might be like what happens when an automobile hits the broadside of a semi- trailer. The car goes thru and loses it top.  The locomotive frame and trucks might pass thru leave the carbody on the side of the big dump truck. I'm sure the train would go under and the big dump truck up.

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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:49 PM
 Ted Marshall wrote:
 espeefoamer wrote:

With a truk that size,the truck would be driven away,and the locomotive would be scrapped.

Game Over!

I respectfully disagree.

Care to contribute to this thread?

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:39 PM

....NP Red:

Take another look at the chassis of one of the largest off road mining trucks.  Material and mass is probably in the similar bracket of weight as is the RR engine.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2008 8:05 PM

How about running into one of these?

http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/7334/0

 

If you scroll down, there are photographs of an incident where a D8 Cat got too close and went for a ride on the ferris wheel.

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 29, 2008 8:24 PM

.....Wild machinery...!

Years ago, movement of one of the mammoth drag line machines {used to uncover coal}, the "walking" version....was moved across a distance {straight across the land surface} to move it to another site back in my home area of Pennsylvania.

It required a land fill similar to the one in the photo in above post to cross the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Seems it was accomplished with out too much trouble.  Don't remember how long the movement and preparation took and how they detoured the traffic.

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Friday, August 29, 2008 9:01 PM
 coborn35 wrote:
 Ted Marshall wrote:
 espeefoamer wrote:

With a truk that size,the truck would be driven away,and the locomotive would be scrapped.

Game Over!

I respectfully disagree.

Care to contribute to this thread?

Max,

I guess you missed my first reply to your post which was my contribution. Here it is again:

 Ted Marshall wrote:

Seems like a good one for Smash Lab, although they've done the train thing before.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/smash-lab/smash-lab.html

Hey... what better to smash something with than a couple 200 ton freight locomotives with about 10,000 trailing tons, right?

I'd normally say that the smart money is on the train, but given the example, I don't think there would be any winners here.

I think I said it all when I said that there would be no winners in this scenario, as preposterously hypothetical that it is. As for my second reply, I highly doubt that the truck would be driven away after a collision with a freight train, disagreeing with foamer's opinion that it would.

This concludes my contributions to this thread which was obviously spawned out of boredom...

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Posted by coborn35 on Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15 PM
Sorry missed that. I feel sorry for you, many fun things are spawned out of boredom. Too bad your busy all the time.

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