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[Ham549]

Okey what is the defference between the F40PH and F40M-3F. Also where rebuilt F40PH's really scraped just after being rebuilt? and Why dosen't Railworld rebuild the engins Amtrak takes out of it's F40PH's when converting them to NPCU's instead of exeting F40PH's?

[emdgp92]

The main difference is the front platform. The F40PH does not have this platform. These were added during the rebuilding. Many of the F40s, which had been the backbone of Amtrak's fleet, are 30 years old, and several have been retired and scrapped. As for the diesel power plants, I think these may have been dropped into other locomotives. This site has more info about the F40s: http://www.railserve.com/jump/jump.cgi?ID=17260 

Here's an F40PH in 2001: http://toyotameister.tripod.com/albany/f40_frnt.jpg. Some other F40-related photos are on this page: http://toyotameister.tripod.com/albany. I took all of these during the PCRRHS convention in Albany in 2001. All of the F40s on that page have since been retired or scrapped.

 

[Lord Atmo]

why is it "F40M-3.....F"? does it have a cowl over its cowl?

[CMSTPP]

why is it "F40M-3.....F"? does it have a cowl over its cowl?

Ya..really. I haven't even heard of these locomotives before. It really sounds like a cowl unit inside a cowl unit. F and M-3. Very interesting. Are there any pictures of these F40M-3s. I would like to see one.

Happy railroading

James

[Lost World]

While on the subject of F40's, anyone remember the F40C?  Only one I ever saw was for the old Northwest Mass Transit line out of Chicago back in the late 80's, which later became Metra I think.  Any of these left?  What's the difference between them and the PH?

[Erie Lackawanna]

F40M-3 is a rebuilt Amtrak F40PH. IIRC, they are re-geared for freight service.  They have had their front noses cut back, to allow for a porch, like any other typical freight engine.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=47864

 

The F40C to which you refer is a remarkably different engine than the F40PH, as it is a C-C unit and the F40PH is a B-B unit.  There are three left on Metra's roster, which are used as back up power (rarely).  The rest of the fleet is in lease service, although at least one has shown up at Larry's Truck, and is proably dead.

[Lost World]

That's interesting.  Always liked the F40.  They've stood the test of time very well.  Still see the same ones pulling trains on NJ Transit today as I did in high school.  They're very fast accelerators in push/pull commuter service.