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How come some trains do not blow their whistle before some grade crossings?

  • How come some trains do not blow their whistle before some grade crossings? I know by the CROR rule 14/L that they are always supposed to blow it before grade crossings and (W) posts? Is this from whiny complainers that live in residential areas? It does'nt make sense to me?

    Rule 14/L of the CROR below

    (l) - - 0 -

    (#) (i) At every whistle post.

    (#) (ii) At least one-quarter of a mile from every public crossing at grade, (except within limits as may be prescribed in special instructions) to be prolonged or repeated according to the speed of the movement until the crossing is fully occupied by the engine or cars.

    (#) (iii) At frequent intervals when view is restricted by weather, curvature or other conditions

    TMC (CNR Mixed train GMD1 1063 with combine coach) (Remember always at Railway X-ing's, (Stop, Look and Listen!)
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  •   Check the areas rules on  quiet zones. If you live in a  town with a quiet zone thats the one reason engineers dont whistle for crossings.

    Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train

  •  Trainmaster.Curt wrote:

     Is this from whiny complainers that live in residential areas?

    And that would be the other reason!Dunce [D)] Pretty stupid, right!

    Happy railroadingLaugh [(-D]

    James

    The Milwaukee Road From Miles City, Montana, to Avery, Idaho. The Mighty Milwaukee's Rocky Mountain Division. Visit: http://www.sd45.com/milwaukeeroad/index.htm
  • Oh well, at least i can hear the big CPR AC4400CW's, SD90MAC-H II's and ES44AC's from my bedroom. Gotta love that new GEVO horn, sounds like a Moog synthesizer doing an impression of an old 4-4-0 whistleWhistling [:-^]Big Smile [:D]

    This picture below is one of my own, shot on a Megxon S-304 camera from China 8 megapixel, 12 megapixel max-interpolated (4000X3000) resolution. Though the picture below is 1280x1024

    (Image of a CPR AC4400CW and a new CPR ES44AC back to back hauling a container train through CPR's Winnipeg Yard)

    Check out http://trainman.cardboardcreations.net (My friend Andrew Joyce's site) there are more photos of mine as well from other talented railfans.

    TMC (CNR Mixed train GMD1 1063 with combine coach) (Remember always at Railway X-ing's, (Stop, Look and Listen!)
  • Some crossings are "exempt" meaning they are private crossings used rarely compared to streets.
  •  route_rock wrote:
      Check the areas rules on  quiet zones. If you live in a  town with a quiet zone thats the one reason engineers dont whistle for crossings.

    Quiet zones have to meet some pretty stiff FRA safety requirements before they can be established.  A municipality cannot legislate a quiet zone without doing anything to maintain a certain level of safety.  Properly designed quiet zones can be a positive public relations situation for the railroad, it never hurts to be a good neighbor.

    The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  •   True being a good neighbor is a good thing. BNSF tries to close most crossings before doing the quiet zone deal. To get a quiet zone you have to have improved barriers to the grade crossing to keep cars from trying to get around the gates.

      I prefer to have trains blowing away but hey I am just a low man on the pole so no big deal.

    Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train

  • Really?

    Our quiet zone we operate through has regualr crossbucks.

    Mechanical Department  "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."

    The Missabe Road: Safety First

     

  • Not to be too unkind, but this equates to people who would rather hear cars go CRUNCH rather than horns go T-O-o-ooT!

    Fairly early in the "quiet zone" thing, the CRUNCH was a doctor responding to an emergency call to the local hospital's emergency room, which had just received the result of some teenagers disregarding signals and gates in their rush to get home from some event or other.  The real irony was that the "quiet zone" was directly under the climb-out path of an Air Force base that was launching loaded C-141's to Southeast Asia every half hour or so, 24/7.

    Anyone who thinks that a diesel horn is more annoying or louder than a loaded transport climbing under 100% power needs to get his decibel meter adjusted.

    Chuck (former flight line mechanic at Base X)

  • In Fullerton, CA a developer is building a complex of high-end Condos right across the street from the south side of the Fullerton Amtrak station.  They get their share of ringing bells and tooting horns as Surfliners and Metrolink trains pull in and out.  But I want to know how the future residents are going to react to the many heavy freights on BNSF's Transcon Line barreling through at 50 MPH in the middle of the night?

    I wouldn't mind, I just take out my hearing aids.

    Jack