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[Poppa_Zit]

Guys! Stop complaining! I only subscribe to GR and I am not complaing about the Trains newswire or anything. I have to agree it does seem unreasonable; but can we just get back to discussing trains?

Run that by me...... You're happy therefore we must be too? I think that's the point of a forum and you seem to be in the minority of those happy with the changes. As an European rail fan I used to enjoy the newswire items. I own many Kalmbach publications and these gave me a current perpective on railroads. Kalmbachs magazine publications surely cover more depth than the web pages so why restrict access? Kalmbach had my £ in book sales and few advertisers in the US are going to do much trade in Europe anyway. Further more most special promotions on these sites are restricted to US and Canada. The whole point of the web is that it is universal Many magazines include pdf's of past articles freely on their web sites as a part of their promotion for their titles. Restricting the newswires is IMHO pretty mean and petty. Geoff West London, UK

What part don't you ungrateful guys get? Please explain why you deserve a free lunch, OK?

Life is all about making choices.

Kalmbach is already providing enough information/entertainment to you on the Internet for free. They recently made a choice of how they will now make the NewsWire available.

You made a choice not to subscribe. Live with it.

IMHO, the mean and petty party in this is you for using Kalmbach's own FREE forum to criticize them. Shame on you.    

Where do you get the free lunch from? If you actually bothered to read what I said I've spent more on Kalbach publications than a mere magazine subscription over the past few years. Also offers and Competitions in the magazines and on this web site seem to limited to US and Canadian Subscribers only so aren't much use to those of us in Europe. Perhaps it's you who's getting the free lunch? Oh and by the way a forum is a debate on rights and wrongs and different perspectives. It's not a "post it" for Sycophants. Geoff

Gee, thanks for enlightening us on the purpose of a forum, Geoff. I made a copy of your definition for future reference in case I need it.

And, golly, thanks for explaining differing perspectives -- because as a curmudgeon, your negativity toward this topic forces you to view anyone who understands and accepts the reason for the change as a "sycophant." Why, Geoff, by calling names of anyone with a differing opinion you're being mean and petty again. *Tsk* Tsk*Tsk* 

Perhaps you would be willing to volunteer to quit your full-time job and edit the Trains newswire for no salary -- just so Kalmbach could offer it at no charge again to those who exercise their freedom of choice and do not buy a mail subscription.

Anyway, it was a free lunch -- at one time, available to all for free. Now there are parameters. Plus, with all of the web-based search engines available for FREE, you don't need the Trains NewsWire -- you can find the same news, and perhaps more.   

So you own some Kalmbach publications. Big deal. So do a lot of non-subscribers who buy back issues or used books on the cheap at train shows, which provides no additional revenue to Kalmbach.

The gist is: you buy a mail subscription to Trains, you get the newswire. You don't subscribe, or you buy it over-the-counter, no newswire privileges. Couldn't be more simple.

And your chances of Kalmbach changing its mind on this are practically nil. Why should  Kalmbach allow the opinion of those who refuse to pay their share of the freight to factor into its decision-making process on this? So why even bother complaining?

[bcammack]

Perhaps you should look up the term "supercillious", associated with "***" and see how well it wears on you.  I can't tell if you were made for the term or the term was made for you.

I miss the Newswire, but I don't miss it enough to subscribe to the magazines.  I find their competition over at Carstens more suitable to my needs and I don't have the surplus funds to subscribe to the Kalmbach tomes, too.

Here's a worthwhile compromise: Leave the current Newswire a subscription-based service, but, open up the archives so that anybody can review the "old" news from previous months.  News has value based upon timeliness.  The older news gets, the less valuable it becomes.  Linux Weekly News does this.  They have two tiers of news.  One is for subscribers only (normally content developed by their staff) and the other is general news that is sourced elsewhere.  The subscription-only content becomes available for free a month after publication.

I think it's a win-win solution.  Subscribers get access to a value-added feature of the web site and non-subscribers aren't completely shut out.

[Poppa_Zit]

Perhaps you should look up the term "supercillious", associated with "***" and see how well it wears on you.  I can't tell if you were made for the term or the term was made for you.

When people resort to the neanderthal gimmick of calling names, it means you hit the bulls-eye.

By the way, perhaps YOU should have looked up the word yourself. It's spelled "supercilious." Duh.

[Railfan1]

You can't please everyone........

[bcammack]

Oh, boo-hoo, I made a typo!!!!

But, thanks for playing, anyway.  Anybody who goes by the moniker of Poppa_Zit is clearly a troll and, as they say in burlesque, "If the shoe fits, take it off."

You didn't have anything intelligent to say, and you still don't.  I made a valid suggestion, but all you can do is rise to a perceived nibble on your little troll line, not contribute to the dialog.

Why don't you go back to www.billoriellyisgod.com and leave some bandwidth here for the open-minded?

[Poppa_Zit]

Oh, boo-hoo, I made a typo!!!!

But, thanks for playing, anyway.  Anybody who goes by the moniker of Poppa_Zit is clearly a troll and, as they say in burlesque, "If the shoe fits, take it off."

You didn't have anything intelligent to say, and you still don't.  I made a valid suggestion, but all you can do is rise to a perceived nibble on your little troll line, not contribute to the dialog.

Why don't you go back to www.billoriellyisgod.com and leave some bandwidth here for the open-minded?

Your life is a typo. Still looking for your valid suggestion.

And now you've learned another thing, you cannot really "lock" a post to hide from smarter people.

Since you are so in love with Carsten's pubs, why not go over and pollute their forums?

Oh, and I'll bet you're in mourning now that Air America went bankrupt... does that mean you and your open mind are job-hunting again? 

 

[mustanggt]

What part don't you ungrateful guys get? Please explain why you deserve a free lunch, OK?

Life is all about making choices.

Kalmbach is already providing enough information/entertainment to you on the Internet for free. They recently made a choice of how they will now make the NewsWire available.

You made a choice not to subscribe. Live with it.

IMHO, the mean and petty party in this is you for using Kalmbach's own FREE forum to criticize them. Shame on you.    

i don't think they were being ungrateful, just being critical......And besides, I'm not too happy with the new login features myself

 

Dave

[Poppa_Zit]

    

i don't think they were being ungrateful, just being critical......And besides, I'm not too happy with the new login features myself

Dave

Well, maybe some people feel some sort of "entitlement" here, and even if they were being critical -- they're still criticizing a free lunch. And I still think using a forum paid for by the entity they're criticizing to accomplish it is pretty darn tacky.

Participating in these Kalmbach forums -- new login features included -- is merely a privilege, and not a right.

Plain and simple -- Kalmbach isn't about providing free public services -- it is a for-profit publishing company, and it has every right to do whatever it wants or needs to do to make that profit. Period.