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Posted by
Anonymous
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Fri, Nov 21 2003 11:00 PM
Safety is a huge issue because a man in the cab can see more than a man on the ground.
The engineer has a feel for the controls and the weight of a train.
lost jobs is another negative.
God forbid on the idea of trains controlled by satelitte......they can't see people walking along the tracks or activity at grade crossings.That would be a recipe for multiple disasters, not to mention class action suits from the families of the dead and injured.
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Posted by
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Fri, Jan 16 2004 9:31 PM
RCL's(remote Control Locomotive) are not new to industry. They have been active in Canada for many years now. I am a federally licensed remote control locomotive operator for U.P. I hate to see the remotes take over but our unions will not fight against it so someone has to do it. In my eyes the remotes are not unsafe. They are actually safer than having to rely on an engineer. Everyone keeps thinking that it takes many years to become an engineer and that is simply untrue. The fact is that a person employed by the U.P. can become an engineer even before reaching 1 year of employment!!!! 19 and 20 year old engineers are not uncommon. Anyways back to the remotes. The remotes have speed selectors so that the operator is not actually manipulating the controls to make the train move. The computer figures it all out based on the weight and other factors. if the computer senses wheel spin or dragging brakes it will stop. If the operator falls or tilts at a 45 degree angle for 5 seconds the train stops. If the remote recieves no communication for 50 seconds it automatically stops. In my eyes this is a safer way of running trains. The use of RCL's have not cost anyone a job. They will however decrease the amount of engineers hired later. There will just be fewer engineers trained. I am not a fan of these RCL's but hey someone has to do it because our unions want us to. Now why would I refuse to operate the remotes and walk away from my $80,000 a year job working 3-4 days a week max?
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Fri, Jan 16 2004 9:31 PM
RCL's(remote Control Locomotive) are not new to industry. They have been active in Canada for many years now. I am a federally licensed remote control locomotive operator for U.P. I hate to see the remotes take over but our unions will not fight against it so someone has to do it. In my eyes the remotes are not unsafe. They are actually safer than having to rely on an engineer. Everyone keeps thinking that it takes many years to become an engineer and that is simply untrue. The fact is that a person employed by the U.P. can become an engineer even before reaching 1 year of employment!!!! 19 and 20 year old engineers are not uncommon. Anyways back to the remotes. The remotes have speed selectors so that the operator is not actually manipulating the controls to make the train move. The computer figures it all out based on the weight and other factors. if the computer senses wheel spin or dragging brakes it will stop. If the operator falls or tilts at a 45 degree angle for 5 seconds the train stops. If the remote recieves no communication for 50 seconds it automatically stops. In my eyes this is a safer way of running trains. The use of RCL's have not cost anyone a job. They will however decrease the amount of engineers hired later. There will just be fewer engineers trained. I am not a fan of these RCL's but hey someone has to do it because our unions want us to. Now why would I refuse to operate the remotes and walk away from my $80,000 a year job working 3-4 days a week max?
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Sat, Jan 17 2004 9:05 PM
I thought I replied but i guess i didn't, so I will now.
The biggest problem is, What happens when, God forbid, The locomotive Hits someone.... theres a chance no one could know!, and a good one at that
So when the train winds up at its final destination and 3 mangled bodies are discovered on the locomotive..
Imagibe the investigators figuring that out? they wouldn't know where the people came from, what crossing they were hit at or what these people even looked like
Remot controls are thinking with your wallet, not your brain
to quote a brillian person, who that Is i can't rememebr
And another brilliant person above
A man in the cab can see more then a man on the ground
very good saying, So I invented this saying
"A man in the cab is worth two on the ground"
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Sat, Jan 17 2004 9:05 PM
I thought I replied but i guess i didn't, so I will now.
The biggest problem is, What happens when, God forbid, The locomotive Hits someone.... theres a chance no one could know!, and a good one at that
So when the train winds up at its final destination and 3 mangled bodies are discovered on the locomotive..
Imagibe the investigators figuring that out? they wouldn't know where the people came from, what crossing they were hit at or what these people even looked like
Remot controls are thinking with your wallet, not your brain
to quote a brillian person, who that Is i can't rememebr
And another brilliant person above
A man in the cab can see more then a man on the ground
very good saying, So I invented this saying
"A man in the cab is worth two on the ground"
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Sun, Jan 18 2004 12:30 PM
Kevin, God forbid anyone ever gets hit by a train. One thing that needs to be cleared up is that these things are not unmanned. The rcl(remote control locomotive) must have point protection. This means that the locomotive must not be moved unless the operator can see that the track in front of him is clear and when going over crossings the employee must have someone on the point for crossing protection. The only reason that these rcl units really work is because they are used in switching yards for now!! Each yard has a specified zone where the rcl can be operated without point protection. These areas have big green signs stating that we operate in those areas. Before any employee can do anything in those zones they must contact the crew who is in charge of that zone. once that zone is occupied by anyone other than the primary rcl then all crews must protect their point until all other crews have exited the zone. Another not is these things will stop the train by gps and pucks put in between the rail before go out of the zone.
Just thought you should know........
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Posted by
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Sun, Jan 18 2004 12:30 PM
Kevin, God forbid anyone ever gets hit by a train. One thing that needs to be cleared up is that these things are not unmanned. The rcl(remote control locomotive) must have point protection. This means that the locomotive must not be moved unless the operator can see that the track in front of him is clear and when going over crossings the employee must have someone on the point for crossing protection. The only reason that these rcl units really work is because they are used in switching yards for now!! Each yard has a specified zone where the rcl can be operated without point protection. These areas have big green signs stating that we operate in those areas. Before any employee can do anything in those zones they must contact the crew who is in charge of that zone. once that zone is occupied by anyone other than the primary rcl then all crews must protect their point until all other crews have exited the zone. Another not is these things will stop the train by gps and pucks put in between the rail before go out of the zone.
Just thought you should know........
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Mon, Jan 19 2004 2:38 PM
I am truley against remote controls because of all of the above
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Mon, Jan 19 2004 2:38 PM
I am truley against remote controls because of all of the above
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Mon, Jan 19 2004 11:30 PM
All of what, Do you operate these?
What kind of experience do you have with the RCL operation?
I operate these daily with no problem.
?????????????
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Posted by
Anonymous
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Mon, Jan 19 2004 11:30 PM
All of what, Do you operate these?
What kind of experience do you have with the RCL operation?
I operate these daily with no problem.
?????????????
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