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  • QUOTE: Originally posted by SCNSrailfan

    Yes Im new i did not know about that...i do applogize for what i said i did not mean the CSX sucks quote to be harmful nor my other one...i do not want any trouble


    applogize accepted. I understand your new and just wanted to say that the language is not acceptable here I don't mind if it was '' oh man you missed a NS SD9 that sucks'' that is an ok one but I like to keep this clean.

    TCC Man- no I am not trying to gang up on him just tell him what you can't say.


    kevin
  • Sorry, Kevin.
    Colin from prr.railfan.net
  • I think I have about 20 to 23 locomotives. Some of the locomotives like the bipolar and Yellowstone are not in there. I also have approximately 40 combined since alot of them are older junked models. The 20 or so in the photo coming soon are the good running. I will probably be bying a locomotive in Chicago in a couple weeks. Thats the countdown for the train show if you were wondering. 12 days to go before the big O scale meet in Chicago. it's actually for my dad but I go along for the fun of it and for the hobby shops.[8D]

    James
    The Milwaukee Road From Miles City, Montana, to Avery, Idaho. The Mighty Milwaukee's Rocky Mountain Division. Visit: http://www.sd45.com/milwaukeeroad/index.htm
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by SCNSrailfan

    Thanks for the welcome and yes may NS swallow UP!!!! anyways ATTENTION ALL MYSPACE USERS!!!! I've made a new group called MySpace Railfanners. I would like to personally invite you to this soon to be big group of railfanning on MySpace!!! The URL is: http://groups.myspace.com/MySpaceRailfaning! Thanks again and welcome!


    If anything UP would buy out NS. Union Pacific is by far the wealthest railroad in the nation and has shown their willingness to exspan via purchase. NS on the other hand has only merged once (with Conrail) and that was only to pervent CSX from becoming the only carrier in the Northeast. NS doesn't have the money, or the willingness (becuase of all the problems that followed the Conrail merge) to merge. Also, the most likely combination would be NS-BNSF, UP-CSX.
  • Alstorm-
    In my daily procrastanting (got a paper and a mid term due Weds.) I noticed that heated thread you started on RP.net! Your camera must have come with a simple organizational program with some edit features (for Nikons it PictureProject). The shot of CSXT 9000 just has be sharpened which is a really simple process I think they will accpet it. Once you figure out what they want, its easy (I got 65 on in under two months!).

    I was looking at some of your other shots and they all look kind of unsharpened. I would assume that this has to do with your camera but alot of time the quailty has to with your compression rate and file size, things that you can fix on the computer.

    Thats enough out of me, spring break in four days (Ironic however, the trains here are about ten times better than the ones back home!).
  • well im playing with my n scale trains in my room, my n scale layout brings me joy

    [soapbox]
    word of advise about bachman track DO get the ho fast track DON'T get the n scale man, i had the worst time trying to get thoes n scale swicthes to work [censored] so in my room i have an n scale 2 by 4 1/2 wich im working on curently with a servacing facilaty, town and a doubble main line. its ment to be a part of the santa fe railway but i have a question did f-3's, c units, and 2-4-2's run at the same time on the santa fe?

    so angry that i cant be on for a while [banghead]
    probably wont be on for a while bye and happy railroading


    LETS GO TIGERS! (clap, clap, clap clap clap )
  • Well, jdirelan how did the UP get the money? By stupid royalty fees. If it were not for the royalty fees, the UP probably would not be the wealthiest RR.
    Colin from prr.railfan.net
  • Richard, John peaked my interest so I went and checked out your thread at RP.net. I'd listen to the guys that were trying to give you advice. In all reality, those two shots you submitted were definately not, RP standard photos. The first is blurry, and the second is going away, not something RP likes. I understand where your comming from with you comments in the thread, because I had those same feelings a few years ago. Take your time to lean how to better take photographs and keep in mind what RP.net wants in a photo (Although don't let it dictate how you take photos), when your out railfanning, and you'll slowly start getting shots on there. I did that, and I know have more than 50 photos on, and I'd probably have more if I saw a train in sunlight more than once a month.....

    Keep up the good work and you'll see good results.

    Colin, I don't think the UP got rich off of Royalties alone. That probably accounts for just a little of the income they make, as there aren't that many models out there. I belive the way the make their money is called "Moving lots and lots of freight over the largest railroad system in the country."

    Not much else guys, and I've got homework to get to....

    Noah
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by tmcc man

    Well, jdirelan how did the UP get the money? By stupid royalty fees. If it were not for the royalty fees, the UP probably would not be the wealthiest RR.


    I have to agree with Noah on this. In fact, I think that UP has only been collecting royality fees for two or three years, well AFTER their latest merge with Southern Pacific. Like Noah said, they're the most wealthest by consistanly moving the most traffic over the most route miles in the US. To be honest, I wouldn't be surpirse if the model royalities make under 1% of all Union Pacific operating income.

    Heres what I mean
    UPs revenue last year, total: 13.578 Billion Dollars
    UPs income last year, total: 1.026 Billion Dollars

    Thus 1% of UP's revenue is 135 million dollars. Say on anygive model UP gets a royality of 25 dollars, so if ONLY one percent UPs income was off models that means that 5,432,000 would have to be sold!
  • Well, I did not think about that. Just shows that you do learn something new everyday. That is a hefty number of models to sell too.
    Colin from prr.railfan.net
  • And if I am correct, didn't CSX get a portion of Conrail as well. I believe it was a split, half and half.
    Colin from prr.railfan.net
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by tmcc man

    And if I am correct, didn't CSX get a portion of Conrail as well. I believe it was a split, half and half.


    The spilt was roughly 60(NS)-40(CSX). CSX stated that it intended to buy Conrail and the Conrail management agreed to the sell. After hearing this, Norfolk Southern attempted to outbid CSX because a joint CSXT-CR would have forced NS out of the northeastern market (althought NS didn't have a huge market there anyways) and made a much more power system in the midwest. Conrail wanted nothing to do with NS and fought very hard to be sold 100 percent to CSX. However, NS brought the matter to court and won (in no small part to the monoploy that CSX would have had). Conrail was split up by the goverment to make rail transportation in the northeast compentive.

    So, the only merge that NS ever attempted only came true thanks to goverment intervention.
  • Yep, Conrail was split between NS and CSX in 1999. And there's something about Conrail shared assets, which sounds like some terminal agreement between CSX and NS on old CR tracks.

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  • QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

    Yep, Conrail was split between NS and CSX in 1999. And there's something about Conrail shared assets, which sounds like some terminal agreement between CSX and NS on old CR tracks.


    Shared Assets is jointly owned by NS and CSX and does the swtiching for both companies in Detroit, Northern NJ and Philly.
  • From what I heard either on this topic (Teen Railfan Place) or a different one that it was NS 58% and CSX 42% but anyway its 60-40 if you round it. NS tried to buyout Conrail back in the 1980's but failed to do so. Who knows Conrail could have been NS for about 20 or less years.




    kevin