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[x railroader]

This is in reference to the sad crash in Glengale Ca yesterday.

The more these commuter agencies operate these so called push pull operations with locomotives on the rear of the trains the more this kind of thing will take place.

The auto on the tracks caused the derailment but the 200 ton locomotive on the rear is the cause of the needless deaths that have occured.

Had locomotive been on the head end where it belongs the incident would have been minor with no loss of life.

Refer to article in todays edition of the USA Today last paragraph on page 3

X railroader

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

The arguments against push-pull operations could also be made against multiple unit cars, either diesel (RDC or DMU) or electric and are equally fallacious. See the posts on the Trains Magazine forum for more details.

[Anonymous]

Well, I´m awaiting with great horror a crash of a push-pull InterCity train with loco on the rear running into something at 125 mph!
Over here in germany we got lots of push-pull trains of any train class(without freights, naturally), from regional and commuter trains to high speed IC trains(and even the commuter trains running at up to 100 mph).
But, luckily, no such crash has happened up to this day, apart from the great crash with an InterCityExpress train, running at 125 mph while a wheel broke, causing a severe derailment of nearly the whole 16car train, with the loco on the rear end still pushing. [:(] This was the crash with the highest rate of death in Germany. But - push-pull trains, or the ICE train units with an engine on both ends are still regarded safe.

Tom

[Ham549]

Why is it called the I.C.E. Inter City Express? Shouldent be a German name since it is a German train?

[rrandb]

I beleive that is the English version of its german name. As we often do we found an english name that would fit its german addreveation. I doubt they gave it an english name.