Grizzly Northern history, Tales from the Grizzly and news on line at isambard5935.blogspot.com
QUOTE: Originally posted by captainclack
Yes, this story is true - I've also heard that at least one shipment of decapods was sunk by the Bolsheviks. I couldn't tell you whether any operated in Canada, but there is one working example in the United States; Frisco #1630, at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Except for discrepancy in track & loading guage, Russian engines are by and large American in their engineering practice. Basically, all it took for Baldwin & Alco to put the 2-10-0's on the US market was to change their guage!
Check out the 1630 sometime - take away the Frisco lettering, and then realize it's a Russian engine. You wouldn't know the difference! Pretty cool.
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C
One of the very first batches of "Russian Decapods" was built by the Canadian Locomotive Company in Kingston, and these were basically standard Canadian locomotives built to the same specification as the later "Russian looking" units. All of these were delivered, and they were reported in "The Locomotive" magazine for 1916. These were known as class "Yek" (appeared as Ek on the cab side) the k standing for "Kanada". The first units built were Yef (f for Philadelphia) and Yes (s for Schenectady) and these weren't "Russian looking" either.
Some of these may have been completed with tyres set at standard gauge for trial in Canada before shipment, unless Kingston laid some broad gauge track for them.
A lot of these locomotives were shipped via China, as the "White" forces still held Siberia and the East, the "Reds" being on top in the West.
I think all the later units were built in the USA, and ended up with the USRA if not shipped to Russia. Using a canadian port may have just been to avoid wartime congestion in the USA ports.
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C
"The Locomotive" was an Engli***rade journal and was widely read in railway mechanical design offices for the first half of last century. There would have been sets (they offered a binding service, or possibly issued a bound copy of the year's issues to libraries. The CN and CP libraries would have had copies, and probably donated their collection to major public libraries in Toronto and Montreal. I'd start there!
The Canadian locomotives were part of the first batch of 400 locomotives and were numbered 351 to 400. These locomotives were indeed all shipped via Vladivostok. The locomotives shipped via China were initially for use on the "Chinese Eastern Railway" which acted as part of the "Trans Siberian Railway" but ran through China with headquarters at Harbin. This extended as far south as Changchun, about half way to Harbin from Dalien, and was 5' gauge. So it was a relatively short haul over the standard gauge to Changchun where the locomotives were assembled. It may have been spreading the assembly work that caused this alternative delivery route.
By the way, I realise I repeated an error in my posting about the the classes.
If "F" = "Philadelphia"
and "S" = "Schenecatady"
then "K" = "Kingston"
I bet the person who originated "K = Kanada" didn't know that CLC was at Kingston!
Checking out the builder's photo of the "Ek", the boiler sat lower, as did the running boards and the cab had a single side window set to the rear. They still had the "Russian" outside handrails, but had a standard US/Canadian smokebox front with a small smokebox door dogged shut.
I think the Russian "H" is the English "L" and all the later WW I locos were class "Ye l".
QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans
These locos were called R-3 by the C.P.R. and used in main line service in the mountains of B.C. they were replaced by T class "Selkirks" they went to Golden, Revelstoke and Notch Hill, some went to yard duties on the prairies, including Winnipeg, all remained in service except one until the 1950's. Their engine numbers were 5756-5790. Angus shops built 35 additional locos from 1917 to 1919