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Help!!! What is a diesel-electric's fuel efficiency?
Posted by
RailroadDoc
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Sun, Oct 31 2004 8:33 PM
I know the fuel efficiency of a diesel engine -- it varies from 40-50%, depending on a number of factors.
I'm looking for the efficiency of the locomotives generator/controller/motor combination. If we have 90% efficient generators and motors, it would seem that the combination would only be about 80% efficient.
However, I've heard that the latest locomotives have their electric efficiency up above 90%.
Does anyone know if this is true or not, and is there someplace on the web that discusses this?
Thanks!!
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Posted by
M636C
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Sun, Oct 31 2004 10:37 PM
Railroad Doc,
No, the best you could expect would be 90% FOR EACH CONVERSION.
So an AC Locomotive like an SD70 MAC would have 90% in the generator, 90% in the DC to AC conversion, and 90% in the motors.
For the diesel engine itself I prefer to think in terms of 0.2 kg/kW hour, which gives you a cost of fuel in dollars! And that is at maximum efficiency!
Peter
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Posted by
RailroadDoc
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Sun, Oct 31 2004 11:45 PM
Nah, you can do better than 90% -- at least for electric motors.
Apparently 95% efficient electric motors are available:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/femp/technologies/eep_emotors.cfm
I would suspect that if 95% efficient electric motors are available, than 95% efficient generators are also available. And that seems to be the case. . . .
http://www.llnl.gov/str/Hybrid.html
As far as power conversion efficincies, how about the high 90s?
http://www.electronicproducts.com/ShowPage.asp?SECTION=3700&PRIMID=&FileName=POWER-ONE.aug2004.HTML
Granted the last reference was more for computer type applications, but it's still pretty good.
So the question still is. . .what electrical efficiencies does the modern diesel-electric locomotive boast?
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