QUOTE: Originally posted by Gscalechuffchuff How can you say you dont like model railroading ????? What your probably really saying is you dont like whats for sale. Most of the "fun"is making the model and seeing it work. If you can hear sounds you dont like, your standing too close. Take it outside and the birds, russling of leaves etc, or neighbours dog, will cover the sound of the electric motor. Still hear it, make a model church and play hymes, or a sawmill with the appropriate noise. If you go to G scale then you can even put your own tape recorder in it, amplify the sound and now you cant say you dont like the noise, your making it. Plus, in all hobies you need a little imagination, not the real thing. Give a child a cheap push along model car and a upmarket one with all the bells and whistles. After a little time I bet the expensive one will be sitting there while the kid is playing with the el-cheapo, and making the sounds. Are adults really that different. Next train show watch some of the adults, watch their lips move and could could swear that some are making chuff chuff noises, but of course not outloud !!!!!!. I know, you would never do that, would you?. How do you make the deisol sounds? Sometimes we get too involved in detail, sounds and where can we buy it from rather than think what we do it for,---- fun and the pride of saying "I made that" rather than I can afford that. Tony. Tony.