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[passengerfan]

For them to select the the Southern Ps-4 Pacifics means they were very shortsighted.

Both the GN Mountains and Northerns in the Glacier Park green scheme and the CPR Royal Hudsons outclassed the Southern Passenger power in colors and power. And for a one of a kind how about the AT&SF Blue Goose. And i almost forgot the Milwaukee Hiawatha power. No one can be really serious about those Southen Railway Pacifics. And what about the SP GS Northerns that powered the Daylights.

That kind of article just invites a backlash.   

[ndbprr]

Very subjective subject like which woman has the best looks.  The Sp gets  high marks because the engines really looked like they belonged with the red and orange passenger cars and that probably influences many people.  My money for an engine by itself woul b e on the PRR t1.

[selector]

It would be hard to overlook the Class J from Norfolk & Western...a very handsome engine.  I agree that the T1 Duplex on the Pennsy road was an excellent example of prime passenger consist head-end power.  The Pennsy K4 was no slouch, although not strealmined.

The J-series Hudsons from the New York Central are also a baffling miss.  How about the Grand Trunk Western and CN Northerns with their streamlined cowling...not too shabby!

So, do you prefer blondes, redheads,...what, eh?  Should I care?  As ndbprr says, you enjoy yours and let me enjoy mine...we'll both be happier than if we try to tell others that they are wrong for their tastes.

I wonder if the article was meant to stir things up a bit.  Otherwise, whatever......

[challenger3980]

My choice won't surprise many, the ULTIMATE HEAVY passenger power, the Union Pacific Challengers in the two tone grey with the Silver striping and lettering. Not as colorful as the Daylights, but still Very Attractive livery. Not Stream-lined either, but still Very Handsome Locomotives that, there was no question of their power just looking at them. Lots of other GREAT locomotives also, these just happen to be MY personal FAVORITES.

                                                                Doug

[nssr9169]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What I wondered was in the articles pacific comparison they never mentioned the $oo Lines pacifics . But I agree the GN had some wonderful passenger power.

[Trainmaster.Curt]

Don't forget the CPR 4-4-4 Jubilees, the fastest passenger steam engines that were.

[Cheese]

For them to select the the Southern Ps-4 Pacifics means they were very shortsighted.

Both the GN Mountains and Northerns in the Glacier Park green scheme and the CPR Royal Hudsons outclassed the Southern Passenger power in colors and power. And for a one of a kind how about the AT&SF Blue Goose. And i almost forgot the Milwaukee Hiawatha power. No one can be really serious about those Southen Railway Pacifics. And what about the SP GS Northerns that powered the Daylights.

That kind of article just invites a backlash.   

Well,

Call me shortsighted, but I say the Ps4s top any or those engines (While I like them all, and think them great contenders), while not necessarily in power, but in class and color, anyday. Ps4ever.....

And yes, my good sir, people can be really serious about "Those Southern Railway Pacifics", YOU seem to not have the ability to do so.

Best Wishes,

Cheese

[Trainmaster.Curt]

Can any railway beat Canadian Pacific for class and style and power......

[cprted]

Don't forget the CPR 4-4-4 Jubilees, the fastest passenger steam engines that were.

In my own opinion, I like the look of the hudsons more, but I do have a soft spot for the 2900 series Jubilees. Honestly though, the SP Daylights are a pretty good choice, they would certainly be in my top 3. As laid out in this tread, no one locomotive is going to please everyone.

Care to elaborate on "the fastest passenger steam engines that were." The Jubilees were fast--especially the big ones (3000 series)--but I've never heard of them breaking any notable speed records.

[trainboyH16-44]

Well Ted, they did actually set the Canadian speed record at 113MPH!

[ndbprr]

Is that in US or Canadian miles per hour?  Oh wait that's dollars.  LOL

[Cheese]

Can any railway beat Canadian Pacific for class and style and power......

Yes,

The Southern can, but, I do admit, just by a hair. I have always been partial to Santa Fe's "Blue Goose" 4-6-4. I would love to have an O gauge model of it, but the only "accurate" Goose is the premier MTH verison, which has a price that is a bit more than I want to spend, even though I am sure the engine is worth every penny.

The only Blue Gooses I can afford is the awfull MTH Railking and Williams versions, which are simply a N&W J painted as the Blue Goose.

Cheese

[cprted]

Well Ted, they did actually set the Canadian speed record at 113MPH!

Fair enough, but 113 mph is still short of both the American and several European speed records.

[Trainmaster.Curt]

Though i remember in my Rail Power book that it said that the 4-4-2 Atlantic types with the 82" driving wheels made it up to 120mph, but i can't at the time remember what railway did that?

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

For your consideration:  NYC J-1 Hudson, Erie K-5 Pacific, B&O President class Pacific, C&NW Class E Pacific, UP FEF-3 Northern.