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[arkansasrailfan]

this is off topic but, why is there a michigan city in IN?

and why is there Paris, AR, England, AR, Tokio, AR, and Arkansas City, KS?

Arkansas is pronounced ARE-CAN-SAW, not ARE-KANSAS
If you don't agree, welll, I are argued with someone from Texas(I refuted, saying if pronounce states the way they are spelled then it would be crazy, but I think he dislikes AR), and they were ignorant(refusing to learn, not like stupid)


But on topic, I've seen a female engineer, an conductor

[Randy Stahl]

Theres a female conductor up here as well...She works at the paper mill up in Brokaw Wi....She was riding a boxcar....

cant see her face..but her body is damn fine..wish we had some eye candy like that around here... we have 1 woman still in reguler train service where im at.. and a few to the east and west of my location.. but none are as "good"looking as her...lol

csx engineer 

She must be punished for riding the car incorrectly ,violating many rules.... any ideas CSX ?  

i got a few but i 1..cant stay them here..and 2..if i was to try any of them in person i would get suied for a form of harrasment...lol

lol gonna be hell to pay for that one csx, but seriously what the hell is she thinking that's a tragedy waiting to happen.

yea it is..but sometimes you do what you got to do.. it is an unsafe place to ride a car..but if you have to ride a car for a while.. hanging off the side of it is hell on your arms and legs..the ideal car to ride like that is a hopper covered or not.. you can crawl up insde the end where the slope sheet is on the end of the car and ride there protected...and you have alot more to grab ahold of to suport yourself like structual elements of the end of the car..not just the grab bar like this chick is holding on to...

csx engineer 

yea I usually ride inside the ends of the covered hoppers. Got a ten mile shove most every day and riding the side of one that long is pure hell.

If I caught either of you riding a car under the slope sheets I would fail you on an operational test , I'm not sure about other railroad rules but on our railroad it is prohibited.

Argonne Wis, 1996 I think , a good friend was killed chasing a runaway cut that he bottled the air on, rode under the slope sheets and was effectivly trapped , when the two cuts collided . he was caught between the two crushed cars . His body was not found until the RFE walked by and keyed the mike on his radio.

Riding inder the slope sheets is an attractive death trap , if my friend had been riding the stirrups he could of survived.

[zardoz]

yea it is..but sometimes you do what you got to do.. it is an unsafe place to ride a car..but if you have to ride a car for a while.. hanging off the side of it is hell on your arms and legs..the ideal car to ride like that is a hopper covered or not.. you can crawl up insde the end where the slope sheet is on the end of the car and ride there protected...and you have alot more to grab ahold of to suport yourself like structual elements of the end of the car..not just the grab bar like this chick is holding on to...

csx engineer 

Plus, if there are bushes or other obstructions along the tracks that do not provise sufficient clearance, "in-between" or "on the end" might be the only (relatively) safe place to ride.

[SFbrkmn]

Because of the so called ERA laws & such the rrs,just like other places of employment, have to interview & hire a certain percentage of females. Personally I don't have a problem w/it. I've worked w/several gals over the few yrs on the rr and all them are good, hard workers who want to make a living for themselves and their families.  They do try and give an effort. In fact there are some gals out here who can run circles around us guys and the old heads just can't stand playing second fiddle to that. Also there is nothing like getting off work and having a beer w/a female rail.  Been there, done that. They do like talking trains (among other things).

[Anonymous]

Theres a female conductor up here as well...She works at the paper mill up in Brokaw Wi....She was riding a boxcar....

cant see her face..but her body is damn fine..wish we had some eye candy like that around here... we have 1 woman still in reguler train service where im at.. and a few to the east and west of my location.. but none are as "good"looking as her...lol

csx engineer 

She must be punished for riding the car incorrectly ,violating many rules.... any ideas CSX ?  

i got a few but i 1..cant stay them here..and 2..if i was to try any of them in person i would get suied for a form of harrasment...lol

lol gonna be hell to pay for that one csx, but seriously what the hell is she thinking that's a tragedy waiting to happen.

yea it is..but sometimes you do what you got to do.. it is an unsafe place to ride a car..but if you have to ride a car for a while.. hanging off the side of it is hell on your arms and legs..the ideal car to ride like that is a hopper covered or not.. you can crawl up insde the end where the slope sheet is on the end of the car and ride there protected...and you have alot more to grab ahold of to suport yourself like structual elements of the end of the car..not just the grab bar like this chick is holding on to...

csx engineer 

yea I usually ride inside the ends of the covered hoppers. Got a ten mile shove most every day and riding the side of one that long is pure hell.

If I caught either of you riding a car under the slope sheets I would fail you on an operational test , I'm not sure about other railroad rules but on our railroad it is prohibited.

Argonne Wis, 1996 I think , a good friend was killed chasing a runaway cut that he bottled the air on, rode under the slope sheets and was effectivly trapped , when the two cuts collided . he was caught between the two crushed cars . His body was not found until the RFE walked by and keyed the mike on his radio.

Riding inder the slope sheets is an attractive death trap , if my friend had been riding the stirrups he could of survived.

catch me if you can LOL

[csxengineer98]

Randy Stahl

yes if you cought me..then yes you could right me up.. but the key word is "cought" you know as well as i do that everyone bends or breaks rules at some point or another to get the job done..if we where to follow the rule book to the letter..we wouldnt even be able to get out of the yard office let alone move freight... every job in the field is a risky one..ride the side of a car is just as risky as rideing an end of a covered hopper under the slope sheet... what happens if your rideing the side of a car and it derails and falls over ontop of you.. i dont care who you are your not going to be able to jump clear and get away befor it lands on you if it should tip over to the side your rideing on... it is called occupational risk.. i am sorry for the loss of your friend..but crap happens out there in the trenches... and in some cases the "proper" way isnt safe..so you have to bend the rules... i am guilty of it as well as every other railroader out there.. its caculated risk... bottom line...

csx engineer 

  

[Anonymous]

Randy Stahl

yes if you cought me..then yes you could right me up.. but the key word is "cought" you know as well as i do that everyone bends or breaks rules at some point or another to get the job done..if we where to follow the rule book to the letter..we wouldnt even be able to get out of the yard office let alone move freight... every job in the field is a risky one..ride the side of a car is just as risky as rideing an end of a covered hopper under the slope sheet... what happens if your rideing the side of a car and it derails and falls over ontop of you.. i dont care who you are your not going to be able to jump clear and get away befor it lands on you if it should tip over to the side your rideing on... it is called occupational risk.. i am sorry for the loss of your friend..but crap happens out there in the trenches... and in some cases the "proper" way isnt safe..so you have to bend the rules... i am guilty of it as well as every other railroader out there.. its caculated risk... bottom line...

csx engineer 

  

If I followed every rule 100% the customers I serve would be pissed. I do consider myself a safe worker. I have common sense but above all I have respect for the equipment and what it can do. Like csxengineer said you have to bend a rule or two from time to time, but I never do so in a manner to put me or anyone else in danger. Yes riding inside the ends of hoppers is dangerous but so is riding the side ladder. But I never ride the inside of one while going over grade crossings, if the S is about to hit the fan I'll take my chances bailing out if there is time. But really you only have a split second to make that decision so it's damn if you do damn if you don't when it comes to jumping or riding it out.

[CSXrules4eva]

Speaking of bending the rules...I in my little four months as being a conductor with CSX have noticed that a lot of people like to bend the rules espeacilly, yardmasters and trainmasters. I have noticed this most working yard jobs.

What really puzzles me is that CSX along with every other Class 1 railroad has been on a mission preaching safety this and safety that; but if clientell is on a rise trainmasters want the conductors to bend the rules to speed up the volume of trains in and out of the terminal. In this mannor the trainmaster looks good to HQ because his train volume in the terminal is high. However, if someone gets hurt due to the fact that the conductor was rushed and took a short cut guess who is at fault? The Conductor. Then you get fired, or worse you may end up injuring someone or killing yourself. So...my best advice to conductors or brakemen these days is work safe, don't take unnessacary sort cuts,and don't let ANYONE rush you.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of bending the rules...I in my little four months as being a conductor with CSX have noticed that a lot of people like to bend the rules espeacilly, yardmasters and trainmasters. I have noticed this most working yard jobs.

What really puzzles me is that CSX along with every other Class 1 railroad has been on a mission preaching safety this and safety that; but if clientell is on a rise trainmasters want the conductors to bend the rules to speed up the volume of trains in and out of the terminal. In this mannor the trainmaster looks good to HQ because his train volume in the terminal is high. However, if someone gets hurt due to the fact that the conductor was rushed and took a short cut guess who is at fault? The Conductor. Then you get fired, or worse you may end up injuring someone or killing yourself. So...my best advice to conductors or brakemen these days is work safe, don't take unnessacary sort cuts,and don't let ANYONE rush you.

csx is funny like that, and with only a few months time with them you have only seen the tip of the iceberg. You should never do anything you don't feel safe doing. Just curious did you come down here to Atlanta for your field training. What a joke that was. The whole thing is just so fake. Emergency dismount practice at 2 mph. Great track, no debris or bad walking, nothing like the rest of the world. JMO but they should have had ereryone go next door to Tilford to get a taste of how things really are.

[rrnut282]

My wife and I volunteer on a tourist line and we BOTH qualified as brakemen.  She knows to ask for 3-point before going in to lace the hoses, and has her own switch key so she can bend the iron, just like everyone else.  If I was worried about her, I'd tell her to stay home.

[csxengineer98]

My wife and I volunteer on a tourist line and we BOTH qualified as brakemen.  She knows to ask for 3-point before going in to lace the hoses, and has her own switch key so she can bend the iron, just like everyone else.  If I was worried about her, I'd tell her to stay home.

working for a tourist line only handeling a few cars on the weekends or when ever you are doing opporations is ALOT differnt then working for a freigth road... tourist equipment aka passanger cars are alot more crew friendly for rideing then are freight cars... also your dealing with 1 train a day... try working in a major switching terminal with trains moving all over the place.. i can say i am quified to say they are far from the same since i too worked for a tourist line befor i started moving freight.. they are 2 very differnt animals!!!! yes there is danger with both..but freight is far more dangerous!!!

csx engineer 

[Randy Stahl]

Randy Stahl

yes if you cought me..then yes you could right me up.. but the key word is "cought" you know as well as i do that everyone bends or breaks rules at some point or another to get the job done..if we where to follow the rule book to the letter..we wouldnt even be able to get out of the yard office let alone move freight... every job in the field is a risky one..ride the side of a car is just as risky as rideing an end of a covered hopper under the slope sheet... what happens if your rideing the side of a car and it derails and falls over ontop of you.. i dont care who you are your not going to be able to jump clear and get away befor it lands on you if it should tip over to the side your rideing on... it is called occupational risk.. i am sorry for the loss of your friend..but crap happens out there in the trenches... and in some cases the "proper" way isnt safe..so you have to bend the rules... i am guilty of it as well as every other railroader out there.. its caculated risk... bottom line...

csx engineer 

  

 

I'm certainly n t Mr. perfect either when it comes to obeying all the rules . It does however give a different perspective when you see the blood the rules are written in , don't you think ?

[csxengineer98]

Randy Stahl

yes if you cought me..then yes you could right me up.. but the key word is "cought" you know as well as i do that everyone bends or breaks rules at some point or another to get the job done..if we where to follow the rule book to the letter..we wouldnt even be able to get out of the yard office let alone move freight... every job in the field is a risky one..ride the side of a car is just as risky as rideing an end of a covered hopper under the slope sheet... what happens if your rideing the side of a car and it derails and falls over ontop of you.. i dont care who you are your not going to be able to jump clear and get away befor it lands on you if it should tip over to the side your rideing on... it is called occupational risk.. i am sorry for the loss of your friend..but crap happens out there in the trenches... and in some cases the "proper" way isnt safe..so you have to bend the rules... i am guilty of it as well as every other railroader out there.. its caculated risk... bottom line...

csx engineer 

  

 

I'm certainly n t Mr. perfect either when it comes to obeying all the rules . It does however give a different perspective when you see the blood the rules are written in , don't you think ?

im not disputing that fact.. im just saying that you do what you need to do.. regardless of personal loss to get the job done.. it sucks to loss a friend due to an accident of any kind..but life and the job goes on...

csx engineer 

[n012944]

Speaking of bending the rules...I in my little four months as being a conductor with CSX have noticed that a lot of people like to bend the rules espeacilly, yardmasters and trainmasters. I have noticed this most working yard jobs.

What really puzzles me is that CSX along with every other Class 1 railroad has been on a mission preaching safety this and safety that; but if clientell is on a rise trainmasters want the conductors to bend the rules to speed up the volume of trains in and out of the terminal. In this mannor the trainmaster looks good to HQ because his train volume in the terminal is high. However, if someone gets hurt due to the fact that the conductor was rushed and took a short cut guess who is at fault? The Conductor. Then you get fired, or worse you may end up injuring someone or killing yourself. So...my best advice to conductors or brakemen these days is work safe, don't take unnessacary sort cuts,and don't let ANYONE rush you.

csx is funny like that, and with only a few months time with them you have only seen the tip of the iceberg. You should never do anything you don't feel safe doing. Just curious did you come down here to Atlanta for your field training. What a joke that was. The whole thing is just so fake. Emergency dismount practice at 2 mph. Great track, no debris or bad walking, nothing like the rest of the world. JMO but they should have had ereryone go next door to Tilford to get a taste of how things really are.

Well it is not just CSX, from what I have seen in my working life, it is just the way of the world.  Most companies are like that.

[Trainmaster.Curt]

Is that an ALCO S-4??