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[Tim Burton]

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Where is the cab?  It seems to be smaller than the firebox, is that really the cab?  I haven't seen a steam locomotive rear end look like that since I saw 1361 last year and that wasn't even on wheels. 

 

 

[trainboyH16-44]

Now THAT is a locomotive

[ndbprr]

I don't know the history of that locomotive but it certainly appears to have a Wooten firebox and I would hazzard a guess was originally a Reading engine.  All Reading engines had them.  The Dutchman found they could buy the fines of anthracite coal very cheaply from the mines they served.  the only problem was it was so fine that the draft on the grate lifted it right up the stack.  By increasing the width they slowed the draft down enough to utilize this fuel source.  It will be interesting if a knowledgeable person can give the history of this engine.

[canazar]

Sure looks like a monster.  It appears to have double tenders.  To get a chance to walk nexto a machine that big when it is alive...amazing.

[cprted]

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Where is the cab?  It seems to be smaller than the firebox, is that really the cab?  I haven't seen a steam locomotive rear end look like that since I saw 1361 last year and that wasn't even on wheels. 

 

 

How much room do two guys need? The cab probably looks small compared to the massive size of the locomotive. Remember the N&W 2-8-8-2s were over 110 ft long. Also, the size of the cab and the size of the firebox really aren't related to each other.

Here is another picture:

[tomikawaTT]

The only thing that separates 2162 from other N&W Y6 class Mallets* is the jacketing over the firebox sides.  True, the cab was a lot smaller than the (108 sq ft grate area) firebox, but there was plenty of room for the crew (especially since the head-end brakeman had his private 'doghouse' atop the tender.)

Post-WWII, a sizeable percentage of N&W's 2-8-8-2s were given 'canteens,' auxiliary water tenders.  2162 seems to have one.

*Spotting features:  Outside frame lead and trailing trucks, and the Worthington BL feedwater heater.  (Y5 and before had inside frames, Y6bs had SA feedwater heaters ahead of the stack on a slightly elongated smokebox.)  It truly is a sizeable beast.  Too bad the N&W didn't see fit to preserve one.  (The N&W 2-8-8-2 at the Museum of Transportation is a Y3)

Chuck

[nssr9169]

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Where is the cab?  It seems to be smaller than the firebox, is that really the cab?  I haven't seen a steam locomotive rear end look like that since I saw 1361 last year and that wasn't even on wheels. 

 

 

How much room do two guys need? The cab probably looks small compared to the massive size of the locomotive. Remember the N&W 2-8-8-2s were over 110 ft long. Also, the size of the cab and the size of the firebox really aren't related to each other.

Here is another picture:

 

Well said, for example the 2884 yellowstone at the LSRM in Duluth dwarfs it's cab yet there i seating for 4 and room for proably 10. Our 4-6-2 pacific can fit about 4 in the cab but we try to limit it because it hot enough allready when she's all steamed up.

[dinwitty]

I have a book on the N&W, definately different, the tender looks to have the coal area mostly covered, prolly to prevent the coal from flying away.

 

[dinwitty]

The engine is clearly a Y6a. N&W were obviously going thru designs. Nothing extraordinary, just your usual superpower N&W western steam undergoing its design advances...

N&W did have a Y7 in the design phase, Thomas Dressler modeled it and its in MR in an older issue. N&W coulda bought the Jawn Henry turbines as they were better, but its price was much higher to buy and the diesel was making its move.

[Texas Chief]

If you all will look very closely, you will see that the top half of the cab is covered in either white smoke or steam, which is blending into the white background thereby providing an unusual optical illusion. (Or optical dillusion).

Dick

Texas Chief