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Do You Model the Railroads You "Grew Up With"?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, March 30, 2007 1:15 AM

Sorry, but that shoe just doesn't fit.

My 'formative years' were spent in Da Bronx - 3rd avenue L, subways, the electrified routes of the NYC and NH, all in the context of brick, concrete and incredible complexity.  (I was a grade schooler before I learned that plants grew in the ground.  Until then, I thought they grew in flowerpots on people's windowsills.)

I moved from Lionel to HO by way of a really strange aberration made of bits of wood and cardstock in 1:192 scale.  Railroad equipment and right-of-way structures fascinated me, but not any particular railroad.

My first encounter with my ultimate prototype took place after I had voted in my first Federal election, a continent-width and an ocean away from the scenes of my childhood.  So be it.

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Posted by twhite on Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:39 PM

I grew up with steam on SP's Roseville-Reno Donner Pass line over the spectacular California Sierra Nevada's.  All those neat AC cab-forwards and those beautiful MT 4-8-2's with and without the Skyline casings.  Rode on the coast line when the GS-4's were still hauling more -than-mile-a-minute-Daylights between San Francisco and LA.  Fell in love with the spectacular Cascades of Northern California and Oregon on the Shasta Daylight. 

Then I went to Colorado on vacation and fell in love with D&RGW--mountain railroading with a VENGEANCE!  Unfortunately, it was then after 1956 when steam was gone, but the Rockies were still there, LOL! 

I model both.  The SP steam I remember, and the D&RGW steam I WISH I'd been there to remember.  Incredibly handsome steamers, both roads.  And BIG mountains--Rockies and Sierras. 

I'm a happy camper. 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:16 PM
 potlatcher wrote:
So, my question is which myth do you buy into - "The world was perfect when I was a kid" or "I missed all the cool stuff"?
  I have to fall into the "I missed all the cool stuff" camp.  I caught the very tail end of steam in real service, I caught the very tail end of good passenger service.  I caught the very tail end of the 1st Generation Diesels.  Unfortunately I was too young to photograph them at the time.
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Posted by orsonroy on Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:50 PM

Growing up in Chicago in the 1970s, I had the El about three blocks from my house. When I saw trains (which was a LOT, as my whole family's into trains), it was either in a rickety, dingy Rock Island commuter coach, or standing trackside watching the Rock, Milwaukee, IC and C&NW sputter, cough, spark and stall their way by, hauling absolutely filthy cars that had seen better days - 25 years ago.

I model central Illinois in the 1940s.

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Posted by n2mopac on Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:08 PM

I started out modeling the railroad I grew up in in the era I grew up in and in the area I grew up in. While that railroad (MoPac) is still my first love and something I collect, I now model a completely different era, region, and railroad (not even a subsidiary).

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Posted by GN-Rick on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:53 PM
Like others have written, yes and no. I model the Great Northern Railway-which I grew up with, but that was the 60s. I have since been bitten by the steam bug-GN steam particularly-so I model the GN in a sort of wide era: 1947 to 1967. I love the original Empire Builder paint scheme, and was disappointed when they replaced it with BS Blue, so I cut off at that date. Were I to truly concentrate on a more particular date, I'd have to choose 1956-the last remnants of steam were still there, but the most spectacular version of the Empire Builder was just placed in service-the '55 edition with domes. And I like first generation diesels too.
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Posted by TwinZephyr on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:37 PM
I don't fit the myth - not even close.  I model the pre-1900s because, to me, the older trains are far more interesting and have significantly more character than those I saw when I was a kid or any trains we see today.
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Posted by alfadawg01 on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:36 PM
Like several others in this thread I grew up in northern New Jersey and learned about trains by way of the New York Central, the Erie and their successors.  However, having lived in other parts of the Garden State and in St. Louis since 1979 and having travelled throughout the US, Canada, the UK, Europe and the Middle East, my influences and tastes are wide and varied so my modelling is, to put it mildly, unfocused.  Recent purchases have included CR, CP, CN, D&H & ATSF locomotives, 40' boxcars and double-stack container cars.  Probably the only focused projects are acquiring models of locomotives I've ridden on, modelling the first Amtrak train my son and I rode on together and modelling a Union Pacific/APL container train.  But even that covers a lot of geographical and temporal ground.  Of course, I could make a good case for having discovered the time machine......

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Posted by tangerine-jack on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:31 PM
 Virginian wrote:

My great Grandfather helped build the Virginian, and I grew up spending many a Sunday afternoon on my Uncle's farm hard by the Norfolk and Western "racetrack" as it exited the Dismal Swamp on the Norfolk side.  The farm is a huge container facility now.  (sigh)

Love those steam engines.  You're right tangerine-jack, seeing a J in revenue service at 80 plus was something.  A Class A at speed with a mile of hoppers was't too shabby either.

 

 

I live just a few miles from where you are speaking of.   Much of the area is no longer farms but industry of some type.  This is growth and it's good in its own way.  I get to see many, many NS coal trains daily, and a lot of CSX freight hauling.  No shortage of railfanning around here!

 The Chrysler museum in Norfolk recently had a photo expo of the very last steam engine run ever; it was an N&S class A run from Baltimore to Roanoke (I believe).  The photographer was a genius and specialized in night photos, and he had the presence of mind to actually record the sounds of what he was shooting at the time.  It was displayed that way in the Chrysler, photos and sound.  Man, what a time machine that was! It made me nostalgic for a time I never lived in.  Brilliant work.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:21 PM

While I grew up in Columbus and saw PRR,NYC,B&O,C&O and N&W I prefer the late 70s,90s and 2004.

I do have C&O locomotives that can fit in the 60s or the 70s.

 

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:20 PM

graphitehemi, The site below sells the "map" edition decals.

http://www.scalerailgraphics.com/31001a.htm

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Posted by GAPPLEG on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:18 PM
I grew up in El Paso Tx.  SP was the railroad .  Years later when I started model railroading I modeled the SP from my childhood. Although I no longer live out there I try my best to model it from a protolance perspective as if they still were around.
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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:00 PM

Now I am modeling mostly CB&Q because much of my childhood was in one of the Q's Chicago suburbs.  In the winter (no leaves in trees blocking view) I could see the trains from my bedroom window.  I recall when we move there, they still had a little steam and those locomotives would shake my bedroom door on its hinges.

Our family did a lot of train travel that included CB&Q, ATSF, SP, MILW, CNW, UP, PRR, CP, CN, NYC, B&O, SOU, ACL, IC, and ..........oh.......I don't recall all of them..........   Also, I traveled around Chicago on CA&E, CNS&M, and CSS&SB. 

My layout is a ficticious division of the Burlington and includes other railroads.

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Posted by graphitehemi on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:47 PM

I model what I was exposed to. Some of you guys might think that running engines that all look alike may be boring, but I like the looks of the old WC engines. To mix it up a little I want to find as many 'special edition' engines I can find in WC paint. I just can't seem to get my hands on that elusive 'map' unit tho. Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by jecorbett on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:46 PM
The short answer is no. My first layout was a fictionalized UP line which ran through the Colorado Rockies as an alternate main to their Wyoming route. That became somewhat prophetic when the UP acquired the D&RGW. I grew up in Omaha and even though that was the eastern terminus of the UP, it had little to do with my choice of the UP. I remember the MoPac running north-south through Omaha and the Burlington passenger trains but can't ever remember seeing any UP trains because we didn't live near their line. I'm not sure why it was I chose the UP for my first layout but it certainly had nothing to do with boyhood memories. Now I am modeling a freelanced eastern railroad. I certainly had no exposure to eastern prototypes when I was growing up. I just became interested in them after I got into modeling by looking at pictures of those railroads, especially from the trainsition era. The settings just seemed more interesting to me than the wide open vistas of western railroads.
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Posted by CMSTPP on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:34 PM

It was more of my father who got me onto the Milwaukee Road. I don't know why, but the railroad has always been of interest to me. That Black and orange bug bit me. So I have been hooked as long as I can remember. It surprises me every step of the way, and it's fun.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Zandoz on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:30 PM
I grew up a stones throw from the Wabash line through my town, and a few blocks from the B&O.  My dream for years was to go with a Wabash theme in HO...And I collected anything Wabash HO that I could get my hands on, for many years.  But recently I came to the realization that space wise, an HO layout that I'd be remotely happy with was not going to ever happen, and switched to N scale. Since I found Wabash N scale stuff to be almost non-existant, I jumped roads and went with what was always my favorite locomotive...Santa Fe F units.  I've never seen one in real life, but have been in love with their look since I was a kid.

Reality...an interesting concept with no successful applications, that should always be accompanied by a "Do not try this at home" warning.

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Posted by Virginian on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:00 PM

My great Grandfather helped build the Virginian, and I grew up spending many a Sunday afternoon on my Uncle's farm hard by the Norfolk and Western "racetrack" as it exited the Dismal Swamp on the Norfolk side.  The farm is a huge container facility now.  (sigh)

Love those steam engines.  You're right tangerine-jack, seeing a J in revenue service at 80 plus was something.  A Class A at speed with a mile of hoppers was't too shabby either.

 

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Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:39 PM

Sort of. I grew up with the SP in central Texas. I was inspired by this to model the SP in some capacity, but my layout is based on an area in west Texas. I also am modeling the Sunset Limited as it would have appeared in San Antonio in the late '50s, although this was well before my time.

I would eventually like to model the SP in San Antonio, to include the Texas Transportation Company so I can have a little street running. That is a ways off when we are finally settled down somewhere and I have the room to do it.

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Posted by lvanhen on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:38 PM
I grew up in northern NJ, and as a kid in the '50's, had the Erie with camelbacks in commuter service, heavier steam in freight locals, and NY Central steam and F diesels on the west shore branch on opposite sides of my town.  I collect & model UP - go figure - prettier colors than black & gray?Question [?]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:33 PM

My Dad was in the Army so I moved around growing up in the 50's.  Some places there were no trains, in Germany we had an active rail line behind our house with steam engines, in D.C. the street cars were running one block over, in Hampton, Va. I rode on the C&O on my 6th grade field trip.  I am now modeling the Ma&Pa circa 1953 - a railroad I never saw growing up.  It allows me to have steam engines and diesels, steel boxcars and wooden boxcars with truss rods and archbar trucks. 

I guess for me the world was perfect when I was a kid.  Though come to think of it I did miss the Maine Two Footers.  But I do have a model of a WW&F Forney locomotive.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:32 PM
Mine would have to be both. I grew up with Wisconsin Central and I model it. But I never grew up around BN and I really like that railroad(Cascade green is da bomb).  I took a likeing to WC because when I was a kid I though it wad the best railroad because I lived around it, but when I got older I realized that there where othering things to it. I don't know how I took a liking to BN but, I think it was flipping through the magizeans and seeing the cascade green, and the Orange nose jobs, and the locomotives.
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Posted by Tracklayer on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:19 PM

When I was a kid, I thought Southern Pacific and Santa Fe were the only two railroads there were... As I got older and into serious model railroading, those were the roads I first started with. Since then I've added Western Pacific, Rio Grande and Norfolk & Western. Who knows what's yet to come...

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Posted by PASMITH on Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:27 PM
I grew up in Harrington Park NJ in the forties along the double track West Shore division of the NYC at a time when it was all steam including the passing of an occasional O & W Camel Back. About the time it was dieselizing, I was taking the train to high school in Dumont. When I was 13, I traded in my Lionel's for HO and built a freelanced east coast steam RR called the Atlantic Coast & Western. The motive power was based on my east coast experiences and included a Bowser K-11 and a Bowser 4-8-2 ( With a cast brass boiler) which I converted to a 4-8-4 with "elephant ears". After high school, and while my family was growing up in Demarest NJ, I had little time for modeling, working and traveling as a fire protection engineer for International Paper Co. In 1975 while inspecting IP's Weed saw mill in California, I got hooked on Steam Logging and in 1982 started to build a narrow gauge freelanced logging RR ( HOn30) loosely based on the Weed Lumber Company in the early 1900's. When I move to Memphis in 1987, I continued with this theme but included the SP Klamath Falls branch of the SP and became hooked on SP and Weed Lumber Company historical research in that part of California. However, my interest in historical research has led me back to my roots in Northern NJ and frequent visits to my family in Harrington Park ( Now that I am retired) finds me visiting the Old And Weary Car Shop in nearby Tappan NY where I was astounded to learn that the NYC West Shore in the forties had a New York City commuter turn using a turntable at Tappan the ruins of which, were located in a cemetary which went back to the 1600's. On my last trip there, I picked up a book about the Northern Railroad of NJ and Piermont Branch entitled "The Next Station Will Be......" with photos of stations along the NRNJ in 1910 from Jersey City NJ to Nyack NY including Demarest where my kids grew up. I am now faced with a dilemma, since there is not enough time to change or model RR's that include both my interests ( Unless I had a lot more resources). This is a dilemma I wrote about several years ago and submitted to MR under their column " One Reader's Opinion entitled " Time Sharing" which was rejected (For good reason) as being too philosophical.

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Posted by Jetrock on Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:49 PM
The place, but not the time. I grew up with a deep infatuation for downtown Sacramento (I grew up in the suburbs) and that's what I model now. Admittedly I have clearer memories of Southern Pacific bloody-nose Geeps than the WP's Perlman Green and old Zephyr schemes, but I do recall them. Rather than model the Seventies, I model the era shortly before I was born, the fifties and sixties, but in many parts of downtown Sacramento things didn't change much from then until a few years ago when gentrification started to rear its ugly head.
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Posted by Don Gibson on Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:36 PM

Yep. ... and rode on: SP Daylites, AT&SF El Cap, San Diegan, and Super. Also CMStP&P, and CNW - BUT I don't model those, (but I had a brass '36 'Hiawatha' ).

I still remember standing trackside as the 'Hiawatha' came barreling through Glenview at 90 MPH enroute to Milwaukee and Minneapolis.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:06 PM

No, I grew up with the Illinois Central and Rock Island. I built a RI-based layout back in the 80s, but now I'm working in On30.

Even before that, though, my plan was to model the ACL, which was never a part of my Chicago childhood.

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Posted by MidlandPacific on Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:58 PM
One exception: I have a definite fondness for the "Model Railroader" of the period.  And a lot of the stuff it advertised and promoted.  But Sunset and West Side brass and Southern steam excursions apart, I'm glad the Seventies are over.

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Posted by SOU Fan on Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:56 PM
Nope, I wasn't even born when Southern went out of business.
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Posted by MidlandPacific on Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:56 PM
Nope - but I grew up in the 1970s, an era that I never wish to see again, the happy memories I have of family and friends aside.  Everything - literally, almost everything - improved in the 1980s: trains, cars, airplanes, cooking, clothes, music, personal habits, computers - you name it.  It all got better.  And it continues to do so.

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