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favorite logging steam loco
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:11 PM
Well, which do you prefer?
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Posted by dave9999 on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:02 PM
4884bigboy, You are a posting maniac, you must be stopped! I think you have covered it all. Is there no
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Posted by dave9999 on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:08 PM
Oh yeah, Three truck shay. Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:54 PM
Overlooked on the list are the Climax -- the second-most popular woods lokey -- as well as the Dunkirk; the Willamette (a highly successful Shay knockoff that prompted Lima to introduce the Pacific Coast Shay); and Baldwin rod lokeys such as 2-6-2Ts, 2-8-2Ts, 2-8-2s and 2-6-6-2 articulateds.

I like the Pacific Coast Shays, but wouldn't mind if someone introduced a three-truck Climax or Willamette!
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Posted by douginut on Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:40 AM


Willamette,
My grandfather SOLD them.

interesting
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Posted by vw-bug on Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:55 AM
Dunkirk's, Grasshoppers, Climaxs Why aren't these on the list.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, November 27, 2003 3:06 AM
The Shay are the baddest logging steamers. Especially Western Maryland's #6. Awsome.

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Posted by Jetrock on Thursday, November 27, 2003 3:42 AM
Personally my favorite is the gypsy locomotive.

These were practically unknown except on the California northcoast. They were essentially a small 0-4-0 engine with a special gearing mechanism and capstans on the front of the engine. This mechanism was intended to use the engine's power to load logs onto the disconnects.

There were two ways to deliver this power--either the locomotive was a traditional rod engine with an extra cylinder dedicated to the loading apparatus, or a sort of "geared" locomotive with cylinders mounted horizontally above the drive wheels, whose power could be switched via a lever (and quite a bit of grunting and swearing on the part of the train crew) between a gearing to drive the wheels and a "bull gear" to drive the capstans.

They are almost uniformly ugly, bare-bones simple (often lacking in things like paint, covered cabs, headlamps, and other amenities) and tiny, and I find them utterly charming.

Here's a link to some gyspy-engine info:

http://www.trainweb.org/gearedsteam/other/bear_harbor_1/bear_harbor_1.htm

And another gypsy-engine link, with a picture of the "Falk", which is drop-dead adorable:

http://www.visithumboldt.com/loggingmuseum/redwoodcountry.html

I'm currently sort-of working on a small HOn3 logging layout (small as in less than three square feet) and want to build a gypsy engine from a converted N-scale 0-4-0 Dockside.

I'm also fond of Porters--those tiny logging rod engines. Supposedly there is a company that makes a Porter body for HOn30/HOn3 use that one can mount on the same 0-4-0 Dockside, and I want one of those too (I have two Docksides ready for mutilation!)
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Posted by GDRMCo on Thursday, November 27, 2003 4:45 AM
i like the 2-8-2Ts and the 2-6-6-2s

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Posted by joseph2 on Thursday, November 27, 2003 5:31 AM
I use a Samhongsa Powerhouse 2-4-4-2 on a logging branchline.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

4884bigboy, You are a posting maniac, you must be stopped! I think you have covered it all. Is there no
end in sight? Dave
I'm sorry[8)]. I just am obbsessed with trains at the time and want to find out other peoples intrests. Plus I have so many questions.......
Sorry if I've been annoying.[;)]

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

Personally my favorite is the gypsy locomotive.

These were practically unknown except on the California northcoast. They were essentially a small 0-4-0 engine with a special gearing mechanism and capstans on the front of the engine. This mechanism was intended to use the engine's power to load logs onto the disconnects.

There were two ways to deliver this power--either the locomotive was a traditional rod engine with an extra cylinder dedicated to the loading apparatus, or a sort of "geared" locomotive with cylinders mounted horizontally above the drive wheels, whose power could be switched via a lever (and quite a bit of grunting and swearing on the part of the train crew) between a gearing to drive the wheels and a "bull gear" to drive the capstans.

They are almost uniformly ugly, bare-bones simple (often lacking in things like paint, covered cabs, headlamps, and other amenities) and tiny, and I find them utterly charming.

Here's a link to some gyspy-engine info:

http://www.trainweb.org/gearedsteam/other/bear_harbor_1/bear_harbor_1.htm

And another gypsy-engine link, with a picture of the "Falk", which is drop-dead adorable:

http://www.visithumboldt.com/loggingmuseum/redwoodcountry.html

I'm currently sort-of working on a small HOn3 logging layout (small as in less than three square feet) and want to build a gypsy engine from a converted N-scale 0-4-0 Dockside.

I'm also fond of Porters--those tiny logging rod engines. Supposedly there is a company that makes a Porter body for HOn30/HOn3 use that one can mount on the same 0-4-0 Dockside, and I want one of those too (I have two Docksides ready for mutilation!)



Jetrock, we have similar tastes...

Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette did some articles on the Bear Harbor Gypsy, including full drawings, enough to build a great model out of, FYI. I hope to build a model of this one day.

Personally I'm more into the mining types (thats my layout), the turn of the century Porter 0-4-0's back when they had wood cabs were of charm, Falk types are really cool.

My favorite geared loco's were the 2 footer Shays used by the Gilpin Tramway in Colorado, and my all time favorites were the 2-6-6-2 mallets built fot the Uintah Railway.

I also really like Class A Climaxs, worn down backwoods beast that look like a still on wheels.

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Posted by dave9999 on Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

4884bigboy, You are a posting maniac, you must be stopped! I think you have covered it all. Is there no
end in sight? Dave
I'm sorry[8)]. I just am obbsessed with trains at the time and want to find out other peoples intrests. Plus I have so many questions.......
Sorry if I've been annoying.[;)]

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Your not being annoying, I was just funnin' with ya [8D]. Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

4884bigboy, You are a posting maniac, you must be stopped! I think you have covered it all. Is there no
end in sight? Dave
I'm sorry[8)]. I just am obbsessed with trains at the time and want to find out other peoples intrests. Plus I have so many questions.......
Sorry if I've been annoying.[;)]

4884bigboy[:)]


Your not being annoying, I was just funnin' with ya [8D]. Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 4:11 PM
Super shays. I'm fond of #2 at Cass Scenic Ry.
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, November 1, 2004 4:19 PM
Hoy Vey! here's another almost year plus topic! No wonder I didnt recognize it![:0]

I do like them Shays with their coffee grinding sidewinder gears but I also have a soft spot for Climax's, in particular the Class A Climax.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

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Posted by dave9999 on Monday, November 1, 2004 4:32 PM
Hey Jonathon,
This one is from waaaaay back.... I still remember this one. Dave
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Posted by railman on Monday, November 1, 2004 5:49 PM
Am I getting duped or is the "grasshopper" a real engine? I've never heard of it before.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 5:54 PM
Love them climaxs and any other small, well used logging loco. Want to have a porter on my layout, but been told that in my scale ( HOn30 ) the 040"s don't run very well. Guess I'll have to stick with my class A climaxs for now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by railman

Am I getting duped or is the "grasshopper" a real engine? I've never heard of it before.

4 wheeled, vertical boiler: http://www.gearedsteam.com/dunkirk/dunkirk.htm

Early B&O Grasshopper: http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/agrasshopper.htm

Here's how to model one: http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/misc/grasshopper1.htm

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Posted by railman on Monday, November 1, 2004 6:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Muddy Creek

QUOTE: Originally posted by railman

Am I getting duped or is the "grasshopper" a real engine? I've never heard of it before.

4 wheeled, vertical boiler: http://www.gearedsteam.com/dunkirk/dunkirk.htm

Early B&O Grasshopper: http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/agrasshopper.htm

Here's how to model one: http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/misc/grasshopper1.htm

Wayne



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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Monday, November 1, 2004 9:00 PM
WESTERN MARYLAND #6!

And of course, the legendary 4 Truck Shay!

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Posted by tatans on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 8:05 PM
Just got an old brand new AHM 0-4-0 ladderback switcher, I'm weathering it and adding a few logging niceties to it, just hooked it up to a long string of log flats and finished lumber boxcars (all ex-something else) and I'll put it up to your bra$$ Heisler any day. I'm amazed just how much this little loco can pull and how great it looks right at home at a logging site, remember now, a lot of logging operations were seat-of-the-pants operations with lots of old used cast-off railway equipment, this fits right in.
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Posted by nfmisso on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 8:33 PM
Baldwin 2-4-4-2
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 8:50 PM
Baldwin 2-6-6-2.
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Posted by EL PARRo on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 9:09 PM
I think there should be another category: all of the above. [:D] I really like all logging locomotives, but I especially like geared steam, like Heislers, Shays, and Climaxes, both two and three trucks.
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Posted by ben13 on Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

Personally my favorite is the gypsy locomotive.

These were practically unknown except on the California northcoast. They were essentially a small 0-4-0 engine with a special gearing mechanism and capstans on the front of the engine. This mechanism was intended to use the engine's power to load logs onto the disconnects.

There were two ways to deliver this power--either the locomotive was a traditional rod engine with an extra cylinder dedicated to the loading apparatus, or a sort of "geared" locomotive with cylinders mounted horizontally above the drive wheels, whose power could be switched via a lever (and quite a bit of grunting and swearing on the part of the train crew) between a gearing to drive the wheels and a "bull gear" to drive the capstans.

They are almost uniformly ugly, bare-bones simple (often lacking in things like paint, covered cabs, headlamps, and other amenities) and tiny, and I find them utterly charming.

Here's a link to some gyspy-engine info:

http://www.trainweb.org/gearedsteam/other/bear_harbor_1/bear_harbor_1.htm

And another gypsy-engine link, with a picture of the "Falk", which is drop-dead adorable:

http://www.visithumboldt.com/loggingmuseum/redwoodcountry.html

I'm currently sort-of working on a small HOn3 logging layout (small as in less than three square feet) and want to build a gypsy engine from a converted N-scale 0-4-0 Dockside.

I'm also fond of Porters--those tiny logging rod engines. Supposedly there is a company that makes a Porter body for HOn30/HOn3 use that one can mount on the same 0-4-0 Dockside, and I want one of those too (I have two Docksides ready for mutilation!)



Jetrock, we have similar tastes...

Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette did some articles on the Bear Harbor Gypsy, including full drawings, enough to build a great model out of, FYI. I hope to build a model of this one day.

Personally I'm more into the mining types (thats my layout), the turn of the century Porter 0-4-0's back when they had wood cabs were of charm, Falk types are really cool.

My favorite geared loco's were the 2 footer Shays used by the Gilpin Tramway in Colorado, and my all time favorites were the 2-6-6-2 mallets built fot the Uintah Railway.

I also really like Class A Climaxs, worn down backwoods beast that look like a still on wheels.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:59 PM
I love the climax class B. the T-1 shay was pretty cool too !
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Posted by Train 284 on Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:29 PM
I would have o vote for them all even though I voted for the shay.

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