peepsight38570 wrote: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NARROW GUAGE HON3 INEXPENSIVE FREIGHT AND PASSENGER EQUIPMENT AS I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING AND PLAN ON ADDING NARROW GUAGE TRACK FOR LOGGING AND MINING TO MY LAYOUT . I ALSO LIKE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ADDED SEEMS LIKE COMPANYS WOULD REALIZE THERE IS A BIGGER DEMAND THEN JUST FOR ATSF UNION PACIFIC SOUTHERN PACIFIC WHEN THEY PRODUCE CARS . I DO NOT HAve anything against these lines bUT WHAT ABOUT NC&STL, ACL,SAL, AND MANY OTHER LINES I LIKE VARIETY ON MY RAILROAD LIKE TO ADD CARS FROM LINES BESIDE THE BIG ONES .
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NARROW GUAGE HON3 INEXPENSIVE FREIGHT AND PASSENGER EQUIPMENT AS I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING AND PLAN ON ADDING NARROW GUAGE TRACK FOR LOGGING AND MINING TO MY LAYOUT . I ALSO LIKE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ADDED SEEMS LIKE COMPANYS WOULD REALIZE THERE IS A BIGGER DEMAND THEN JUST FOR ATSF UNION PACIFIC SOUTHERN PACIFIC WHEN THEY PRODUCE CARS . I DO NOT HAve anything against these lines bUT WHAT ABOUT NC&STL, ACL,SAL, AND MANY OTHER LINES I LIKE VARIETY ON MY RAILROAD LIKE TO ADD CARS FROM LINES BESIDE THE BIG ONES .
MicroTrains has just released their HOn3 logging cars. Undecorated in black, very nice detail, RTR, with 2 different log loads. Not cheap - is anything in HOn3? - but ready to go with some lettering for your favorite logging line.
Me, I'm just happy for the wide variety that is currently available, even for a late-19th Century HO modeler like me. Two new 4-4-0s (I'd love to see one in HOn3, but will have to build up my own or rebuild an FED so far), a decent 2-6-0 to come, the Spectrum 4-6-0 that can be back-dated reasonably. And all kinds of car kits - just have to search a little.
This is nothing personal about peepsight's post, but I guess this list irritates me. Many items on the list can be obtained with a little kit-bashing and/or painting. Others can be found at some of the lesser-known manufacturers, but it takes a little searching and effort. And scratch-building a car isn't much more difficult than assembling some of the resin or wood kits or even more difficult plastic kits. Selection and quality is far greater than at any time I can remember in my 40+ years in the hobby. Yet, here we have a 3 page wish list of cars and a 5 page list for locomotives that whine about how a particular model doesn't measure up to our standards, or no manufacturer shares our vision of what he ought to make.
By the way, if you do make a nice model of something that's not already on the market, consider using it as a basis for creating a low production resin or wood kit. Others might be willing to build one too.
just my thoughts, rant over, time for me to do instead of telling others to do
...modeling foggy coastal Oregon where it's always 1900...
Fred W
Now that 4-4-0 locomotives are becoming a little easier to find, I'd like to think that the market is ready for some 36' wood-sided (constructed of plastic) freight and stock cars as well as cabooses... along the lines of what orsonroy suggests!
I'd be looking for 1880s to 1900 vintage Canadian Pacific in my case.
Did you know that Algoma Mills was, for a short time, the western terminus of the eastern portion of the first Canadian trans-continental railroad? Montreal was the eastern terminus. Because of obstacles faced building the road over 800 miles of granite and muskeg in northern Ontario, the plan was to trans-ship passengers and goods by steamer from Algoma Mills to the head of the Great Lakes, and west the rest of the way by rail from Port Arthur (now Thunder Bay).
In On30, I would like to see a few longer cars than the short 26-27 footers that Bachmann offers. Some 30-35 foot freight cars and 50 foot passenger cars would lend a nice variety to the available rolling stock. A stock car with cattle sounds would also be nice to have as well.
Ted Brewer
orsonroy wrote:We NEED cars for the 1900-1930 era. We've got plenty of steel boxcars and single sheathed cars, and WAY too many USRA things. We've even got a few decent examples of Pennsy cars like the X29. But we're missing HUGE chunks of the steam era freight car fleet, especially now that Roundhouse is basically gone. Most of the cars that we need are available in resin, but very few of us can afford the time and money to invest in huge rosters of resin freight cars. We NEED quality plastic freight cars for the pre-transition period, especially the cars that there were tens of thousands of that for some unknown reason have been "forgotten" by the hobby.
We NEED cars for the 1900-1930 era. We've got plenty of steel boxcars and single sheathed cars, and WAY too many USRA things. We've even got a few decent examples of Pennsy cars like the X29. But we're missing HUGE chunks of the steam era freight car fleet, especially now that Roundhouse is basically gone. Most of the cars that we need are available in resin, but very few of us can afford the time and money to invest in huge rosters of resin freight cars. We NEED quality plastic freight cars for the pre-transition period, especially the cars that there were tens of thousands of that for some unknown reason have been "forgotten" by the hobby.
The Depression and the Second World War prolonged the life of a lot of ancient equipment that created the variety of size and shape that is apparent in photos of freight trains through the 1940's. While resin may be the best way to model the rare and unusual car, there were vast numbers of relatively common cars that would be excellent prospects for plastic models without duplicating something already in production. Standard Steel Car apparently built thousands of relatively standard pre-USRA hoppers that have not even been done in resin. PRR cars dominated the freight car fleet, but except for the X29, there are few early cars available. I would like to see an X23 for starters. 36' boxcars from different roads with a variety of underframes hung around well into the transition era. We may need to rely on resin models for our home road cars, but it would be nice to fill out the rest of the fleet with well detailed, current generation plastic cars. It has been said that the transition era is the most popular period to model, but that does not mean that every car has to have been built then. To model the 1940's we need equipment from the '30's, '20's, teens and earlier.
Then there are milk cars. How about a decent plastic Bordens butter dish car or the detachable tank milk cars? Athearn/Roundhouse seem to make the best of the current generation of milk cars, but they have not seen fit to produce the Pullman green and basic lettering paint schemes that ran in service after the initial colorful schemes were repainted.
Bill Badger
Modeling the late, great Rutland Railroad in HO
While N-Scalers have an Evans 4750 Covered Hopper, HO-Scalers still do not and they were a major supplier of Covered Hoppers in the 1970's.
Also the 50' FGE RBL with the offset doors for canstock loading.
Rick
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An HO scale schanabel car, Reday-to-Roll with HO scale people in reflective safety vests included.
Albeit a little farfetched, you never know what will come out later on.
-Brandon
I will probably get flamed for this, but you did say what I would like to see.I would like to see some NYC cars that are modeled after NYC Prototypes. Branchline had a few models that were close. I would like them to have Despatch car ends and details that were unique to the NYC. How about some of those Flexi-Vans that Walthers alegedly has in the works, or some of the Flexi-flow hoppers, or some of those steel trough cars with the clamshell hoods...Man the NYC was innovative. My head is still spins when I think of the NYC and the Pennsys demise. Of course their uniqueness is what puts them in the class with the B&O wagontops.
Paul
Dayton and Mad River RR...a NYC Sub in my mind.
In HO scale, I would like to see: PFE, ATSF, FGE/WFE/CB&Q ice reefers with plug doors. A PFE 40-26 would be nice.
A 1960's era carbon black car. Tank cars, 1950's- 60's with the large dome and platform around it.
FGE built mechanical reefers, ATSF built mechanical reefers, a PRR X58 in plastic and NYC Dispatch Shops rib side boxcars would go well with the recent models brought out by the manufacturers.
I also would like to see Kaydee modernize their 50' PS1 boxcar and apply 1960's- 1970's schemes to them.
dragonriversteel
HO Southern loco-trol radio car
That one's been done. Wright Track Models, IIRC, or something close to that. Don't know if it's plastic or resin. They also did a Southern bay window caboose, in both the 50's version, and 60-70's version.
Go ahead and flame me for this, but I'd like to see the Southern 2-8-8-2 articulated steamers. Yeah, I know this was supposed to be cars, etc., and not locos. Go ahead and flame me, I don't care. Oh, and I'd like to see Southern's 84 foot "tobacco" boxcars, they were done ages ago in a craftsman kit (or maybe resin), but I'd love to see these unique cars in a plastic version ($10-20 price range). I can't afford the vintage kits, and don't really have the time or skills to properly assemble one.
Brad
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bbadger wrote: It has been said that the transition era is the most popular period to model, but that does not mean that every car has to have been built then. To model the 1940's we need equipment from the '30's, '20's, teens and earlier.Bill Badger
It has been said that the transition era is the most popular period to model, but that does not mean that every car has to have been built then. To model the 1940's we need equipment from the '30's, '20's, teens and earlier.Bill Badger
Bill... you're brilliant!! You've uncovered a fact apparently overlooked by modelers and manufacturers..... the transition era applies to BOTH locos AND cars!!!
I would like to see a well priced BethGon, say $8.98. To build a fleet, I don't want to pay $99.98 for only 5 cars.
---Kasey K. KCK---
An N scale PRR N8 cabin car (Bowser???).
A plastic N scale PRR N6 cabin car (Gloorcraft's craftsman kit is hard to come by).
An N scale PRR RB50 express refrigerator car.
An N scale PRR P70FBR coach (massive rebuild from the P70 heavyweights).
And, how about some (N scale) PRR X29 rebuilds? Red caboose and MTL have both made fine X29 boxcars with the as-built height, with either panel or corrugated doors. But PRR converted thousands and thousands of these cars to the X29B/D/G series with taller sides and corrugated ends.
Because PRR X29 rebuilds were so ubiquitous, anyone modeling the 1950s should have at least one. Bring 'em on in N scale!!!
Modeling the Rio Grande Southern First District circa 1938-1946 in HOn3.
I just ran across this tonight while researching NYC Standard 34' Wood cabooses on the Internet:
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Apparently, these were converted from wood boxcars and used in temporary service during WWII. I don't ever expect to see one of these manufactured. So it looks like I'll either have to kitbash it or build it from scratch.
Tom
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Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
myred02 wrote: An HO scale schanabel car, Reday-to-Roll with HO scale people in reflective safety vests included.
If the Old Dog remembers correctly, there was a version in brass available a number of years ago.
There was also a die cast European version available at one time. See
http://home.att.net/~Berliner-Ultrasonics/rrschnb2.html#mod-list
Have fun
I would like to see N-scale CPR cabooses painted yellow (action yellow I believe). Primarily, the wide vision cabooses that CP used at the end of the caboose era, but also older models that were repainted yellow.
Neil.
I would like a ATSF 86' double plug door autoparts boxcar in N scale.
Cheers,
Wow, thanks Dog! I had no idea these even existed.
ericspTrinity Rail Group built LPG tankcars, 30,000 gallon tankcars, and 20,000 to 25,000 tankcars.R-70-15, R-70-16, R-70-18, R-70-19, R-70-20, R-70-22, and R-70-24, all with Hydra-Cushion underframesFGE built mechanical reefersPC&F 60' RBLs with 14' doorsPC&F and FGE 60' RPLs, the type used by Tropicana40', 100 ton, PC&F boxcarsPC&F 50', rib side RBLs
Trinity Rail Group built LPG tankcars, 30,000 gallon tankcars, and 20,000 to 25,000 tankcars.
R-70-15, R-70-16, R-70-18, R-70-19, R-70-20, R-70-22, and R-70-24, all with Hydra-Cushion underframes
FGE built mechanical reefers
PC&F 60' RBLs with 14' doors
PC&F and FGE 60' RPLs, the type used by Tropicana
40', 100 ton, PC&F boxcars
PC&F 50', rib side RBLs
Almost 3 years later, there has been some progress on this list. Walthers has announced the TRG 30,000 gallon tankcars (one variety anyway). Atlas has come out with TRG 25,000 gallon tankcars. And Intermountain makes a reefer that can represent the R-70-20, R-70-22, or R-70-24 (depending on what roof and underframe are used).
"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)
dti406 While N-Scalers have an Evans 4750 Covered Hopper, HO-Scalers still do not and they were a major supplier of Covered Hoppers in the 1970's.
Walthers has a 4780 coming out as part of their new ethanol series:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41200
Chris van der Heide
My Algoma Central Railway Modeling Blog
Actually I have way more than the layout can handle, and I can't think of anything more I would want to see, have or buy. I have reached the point of true contentment, so I am just enjoying what I have instead of watching ads, running to the hobbyshop on a regular basis, or looking through the ads in MR and the websites for more.
Actually this has freed me up to improve on structures, scenery and some trackwork. But there really isn't anything in the rolling stock catagory that I want that isn't available.
Bob
Hi!
I'm pretty much in the same boat (gondola?) as Pastor Bob. After amassing several hundred HO transition era kits, I realized I had way more than I would probably want to actually build and use. Soooo, over the last 5 years I sold off a couple hundred on Ebay, narrowing what was left to my specific type, time, road of interest. Sooo, for freight cars, I'm satisfied with what I have.
That's not the case on the passenger car side. I really hope Walthers comes out with a lightweight Illinois Central RPO and tail end passenger car. This would complete my passenger train needs.
ENJOY,
Mobilman44
ENJOY !
Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central
For HO:
Any proprietary pre-mid 1950's covered hoppers, especially PRR H30 class. H30's have been done a few times, but only as difficult to assembe craftsman kits. I think the latest is stillborn.
Any B&O wagon top equipment.
Correct cabooses for roads that have had more than one correct steam locomotive released, such as N&W, L&N, etc. You can get three or more correct locos for each, but no period correct caboose except for Brass (I do know about the AMB CF).
UTLX spec steam era tank cars. The ACF cars are great, but there were more UTLX on the road.
A 2nd for more 40- 45" gons with actual prototypes.
Non-truss rod 36" equipment
For N:
Horizon series passenger cars. I see these every day!
Modern tank cars in white with rusty red center section. I think these are chlorine cars. See these everyday as well.
A couple of years ago, I'd have said 3 or 4 bay gray covered hoppers with no billboard style lettering (for example, plastics cars), but the manufacturers have come through with this everyday item
Ditto for plain black modern tank cars. A few years ago you almost couldn't find any. Now you have a choice of prototypes and sizes, chemical, gas, food grade, syrup, etc
Have to sneak this in...N scale CF7 and SF style "clayburne cab" kit.
All the following in HO, some of them may have been done:
Prefferably as an Accurail kit or Trainman RTR. (who else does cars that aren't really expensive and don't break when looked at wrong?)
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
cv_acr dti406 While N-Scalers have an Evans 4750 Covered Hopper, HO-Scalers still do not and they were a major supplier of Covered Hoppers in the 1970's. Walthers has a 4780 coming out as part of their new ethanol series: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41200
Why are you responding to a 3 Year Old Post, I have known about the Evans 4780's for month's now and have an order for Undecs with MB Klein.
Regards
SpaceMouseAnything 1885 West Coast
pcarrellSince it appears that the "What loco would you like to see?" thread was so popular, I thought I'd do a follow up thread.This is open to freight, passenger, MOW, anything but a loco.So, what rolling stock would you most like to see? Please mention the scale. Since I model N scale, I'd like to see some wood sided passenger cars that are longer that the MDC 50'ers. Some 78' footers would be great! Something like this...................There are some Model Power and RR heaviweights available, but they're all metal sided versions, and the conversion is a pain.
Since it appears that the "What loco would you like to see?" thread was so popular, I thought I'd do a follow up thread.
This is open to freight, passenger, MOW, anything but a loco.
So, what rolling stock would you most like to see? Please mention the scale.
Since I model N scale, I'd like to see some wood sided passenger cars that are longer that the MDC 50'ers. Some 78' footers would be great! Something like this...................
There are some Model Power and RR heaviweights available, but they're all metal sided versions, and the conversion is a pain.
Okay.As said in previous posts,I'm planning on modeling a MoPac/Katy themed layout in the Austin area circa 1959.
Now here's what I'd like to see:(1)Walthers LW Passenger Cars in MPBlue and White,not Jenks Blue.
(2)A GP7 in MP Blue&White or Katy Red-Either Original Red or Barringer Red with the'Squished'Katy Shield.
(3)Some Heavyweight Head End Cars in either Katy Green or Red and Silver as well as MP Blue&White.
(4)Athearn or Intermountain to bring back the F3/7 in MP Blue&White.
(5)Walthers Proto 1000 F3 in MP Blue&White.
(6)Walthers LW Passenger Cars in Katy Red&Silver.
(7)Athearn to make a Piggyback Flat Car in MKT to match their 25'Trailers.
(8)Walthers to make a HW Baggage/RPO Car.
(9)A RTR Steam Box Car in NdeM .
(10)Atlas to reissue the ARA Box Car in MP/IGN.
I would like to see Berksire Valley Inc. finally be able to get the money to pay Weaver Models the make the 1970's era O Scale Thrall Car Coal Gondolas that they planned to make in 1995.
I would like to see the 1960's era Magor Aluminum Body, 4750 Cu. Ft. Capy., 3-Bay Covered Hoppers produced in N Scale, HO Scale, S Scale, and O Scale. Perhaps actually made out of real aluminum.
Andrew
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