As Rod Serling used to say in the intro to some episodes of the Twilight Zone,
"SUBMITTED FOR YOUR APPROVAL:"
1. Early Conrail ran a Mulligan stew of every locomotive and freight car imaginable, and continued to operate a number of commuter rail operations. Reading and CNJ in the heartland, gotta love it!
2. Baby Blue also leased and pooled a wide variety of motive power from all over the place: ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CNW, PNC, SOU, SP/SSW, UP just to name a few.
3. Conrail "made it," was the target of a red-hot bidding war, and its pieces/parts live on as viable private railways.
You can't knock success--buy and run your favorite mismatched roadnames because diversity is apparently the path to good railroading, at least in one case!
I have a couple of relatives who don't visit very often. When they do, I run a REALLY UGLY SP diesel rescued from a yard sale by my sister. The gentleman is my nephew-in-law, and an ex-UP (ex-SP) employee. His wife is the one who conned her mother into buying the loco and sending it to me.
I run the Thing with a couple of railroad club boxcars, some TTT hoppers and an SP bay-window caboose that's destined for kitbashing.
After they leave I run the KiHa80 class DMU train over all the track to decontaminate it!
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - NOT Arizona in 1977)
Tracklayer wrote: animal8526 wrote: Tracklayer wrote: Lynda wrote: Tracklayer wrote:[I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer Well, no, Tracklayer. You can't possibly be "extreme misanthropic." Misanthropic is an adjective. On the other hand, you could be characterized as extremely misanthropic, or you may be an extreme misanthrope.I, however, am extremely didactic. It would appear we're all anal about something.Lynda (and all about configuring proper sentence consists )So I stand corrected Lynda... But the fact still remains. And this will be my last reply on the forum. I don't know why I ever joined in the first place. I've not ever applied anything that I've ever read here to the hobby due to the fact that I know all I need to as far as I'm concerned, but hope I've been of some help to someone out there with what I've offered. Good bye and best wishes to you all with your hobby and your modern world. Tracklayer well, if thats you taking your proverbial ball and going home, sorry to hear it. I'm new here, but I have to think that a person with well over 1000 posts had to help someone somewhere. couldn't have all been just about detesting us other humans. infact, I have to think the evidence would prob lean toward your other misanthrope buddies (there's a funny image, and extreme in oxy-moron) casting you out of the club... I would think helping another one of us human scum may be against the rules.I'm sorry animal8526, Lynda and everyone. I'm not feeling well at all lately, and blew my stack about something that was said on another thread that offended me that most of the time I would have ignored. Please forgive me for shooting off my stupid mouth. As for my being a Misanthrope. I work hard to try and overcome it every day, but if you only knew how hard it was for me to leave my house just to go to the grocery store maybe you would understand. The truth is, it's not so much that I despise the modern world as I am afraid of it. I suffered a head injury back in 1981 on a construction job accident and this is one of the long term problems that it's caused me. I guess we all have our crosses to bare. This is just one of mine. My sincerest respect to you all. Tracklayer
animal8526 wrote: Tracklayer wrote: Lynda wrote: Tracklayer wrote:[I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer Well, no, Tracklayer. You can't possibly be "extreme misanthropic." Misanthropic is an adjective. On the other hand, you could be characterized as extremely misanthropic, or you may be an extreme misanthrope.I, however, am extremely didactic. It would appear we're all anal about something.Lynda (and all about configuring proper sentence consists )So I stand corrected Lynda... But the fact still remains. And this will be my last reply on the forum. I don't know why I ever joined in the first place. I've not ever applied anything that I've ever read here to the hobby due to the fact that I know all I need to as far as I'm concerned, but hope I've been of some help to someone out there with what I've offered. Good bye and best wishes to you all with your hobby and your modern world. Tracklayer well, if thats you taking your proverbial ball and going home, sorry to hear it. I'm new here, but I have to think that a person with well over 1000 posts had to help someone somewhere. couldn't have all been just about detesting us other humans. infact, I have to think the evidence would prob lean toward your other misanthrope buddies (there's a funny image, and extreme in oxy-moron) casting you out of the club... I would think helping another one of us human scum may be against the rules.
Tracklayer wrote: Lynda wrote: Tracklayer wrote:[I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer Well, no, Tracklayer. You can't possibly be "extreme misanthropic." Misanthropic is an adjective. On the other hand, you could be characterized as extremely misanthropic, or you may be an extreme misanthrope.I, however, am extremely didactic. It would appear we're all anal about something.Lynda (and all about configuring proper sentence consists )So I stand corrected Lynda... But the fact still remains. And this will be my last reply on the forum. I don't know why I ever joined in the first place. I've not ever applied anything that I've ever read here to the hobby due to the fact that I know all I need to as far as I'm concerned, but hope I've been of some help to someone out there with what I've offered. Good bye and best wishes to you all with your hobby and your modern world. Tracklayer
Lynda wrote: Tracklayer wrote:[I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer Well, no, Tracklayer. You can't possibly be "extreme misanthropic." Misanthropic is an adjective. On the other hand, you could be characterized as extremely misanthropic, or you may be an extreme misanthrope.I, however, am extremely didactic. It would appear we're all anal about something.Lynda (and all about configuring proper sentence consists )
Tracklayer wrote:[I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer
Well, no, Tracklayer. You can't possibly be "extreme misanthropic." Misanthropic is an adjective. On the other hand, you could be characterized as extremely misanthropic, or you may be an extreme misanthrope.
I, however, am extremely didactic.
It would appear we're all anal about something.
Lynda (and all about configuring proper sentence consists )
So I stand corrected Lynda... But the fact still remains. And this will be my last reply on the forum. I don't know why I ever joined in the first place. I've not ever applied anything that I've ever read here to the hobby due to the fact that I know all I need to as far as I'm concerned, but hope I've been of some help to someone out there with what I've offered. Good bye and best wishes to you all with your hobby and your modern world. Tracklayer
well, if thats you taking your proverbial ball and going home, sorry to hear it. I'm new here, but I have to think that a person with well over 1000 posts had to help someone somewhere. couldn't have all been just about detesting us other humans. infact, I have to think the evidence would prob lean toward your other misanthrope buddies (there's a funny image, and extreme in oxy-moron) casting you out of the club... I would think helping another one of us human scum may be against the rules.
I'm sorry animal8526, Lynda and everyone. I'm not feeling well at all lately, and blew my stack about something that was said on another thread that offended me that most of the time I would have ignored. Please forgive me for shooting off my stupid mouth. As for my being a Misanthrope. I work hard to try and overcome it every day, but if you only knew how hard it was for me to leave my house just to go to the grocery store maybe you would understand. The truth is, it's not so much that I despise the modern world as I am afraid of it. I suffered a head injury back in 1981 on a construction job accident and this is one of the long term problems that it's caused me. I guess we all have our crosses to bare. This is just one of mine. My sincerest respect to you all. Tracklayer
Tracklayer,
though I did not agree with the specific views you had presented earlier, I honestly gave you some respect for being fourthright. with this last post, you have gained that much more. no apology needed. I just want you to know I meant no disrespect or offense... my comment about you prob not being as huge of a misanthrope was intented to convey to you that I didn't think you could be nearly as bad as you thought.
lastly, as far as distrust of humankind, I feel you. I've spent almost 4 years in the army, the last of which was spent in Iraq, and I have seen some of the worst things people can do. tracklayer, you have my sincerest respect for dealing with what you deal with. and nothing but my goodwill. I hope to be able to tap into your knowledge at some point. till then, take care. no ill will here my friend.
Tim
SpaceMouse wrote:
WARNING! DANGER WILL ROBINSON! WHIMSY DETECTED!
Nelson
Ex-Southern 385 Being Hoisted
that is awesome... thanks for my first good laugh of the weekend.
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
Andre ... thank you for seeing my twisted humor and the irony of it.
You're quite welcome, Lynda. Actually, I should be thanking you since you're the only person I've seen on this forum whose sense of humor is as twisted as my own. I was starting to feel like the Lone Ranger. 'Course, other people more often see me as the Lone Haranguer. .
Andre
Tracklayer ... for heaven's sake, it was a joke, man. I even included smiley faces.
Generally ... I don't judge anyone else's layout or prototyping decisions. I happen to love the dickens out of GP30s, but I've made a conscious decision to model the 1955 era; so, guess what? I'd love to have a 4-8-8-4 Big Boy, but the notion of running anything UP on GN track is historically absurd. But that's just me. I couldn't give a floundering farthing what anyone else decides to do.
Oh my Lord!!! Mrs. Conan The Grammarian lives and she's also a model railroader!!!
Where were you when I was single?
animal8526 wrote: Tracklayer wrote:Though the statement may very well be true, you won't ever see me actually say such a childish thing here on the forum like I've seen others do... It may very well be my layout and my property, but I follow strict, specific rules, as in, the layout itself and trains are all serious copies of the "real world" in every respect, not clownish things out of my wild imagination like some I've seen. You won't ever see me run steam locos and mixed era rolling stock when the layout is set up for modern trains, or diesels when the layout is set up for the steam era with the wrong caboose or something. As for the question. No, I don't run things on my layout that I dislike, and if someone happens to give me an item for Christmas, my birthday or otherwise that I don't feel right about-which does occur from time to time, I accept it gratefully, then sale it on ebay or trade it to one of my model railroading buddies for something I prefer ASAP!... Tracklayer jeez. you are cold dude. and from your last sentance, horrifically ungrateful... ebay or trade off something someone got you because it doesn't fit your rather strict guidelines? does it occur to you that perhaps whoever got you said gift did so out the kindness of thier heart and likely is not the expert on your particular modeling fetishes you would like them to be? Is model railroading a job or a hobby for you? if there is fun in modelling in such a way for you, kudos... but it sounds like you take the fun out of it for everyone else around you. rant over. we may now return to our regularly scheduled thread.
Tracklayer wrote:Though the statement may very well be true, you won't ever see me actually say such a childish thing here on the forum like I've seen others do... It may very well be my layout and my property, but I follow strict, specific rules, as in, the layout itself and trains are all serious copies of the "real world" in every respect, not clownish things out of my wild imagination like some I've seen. You won't ever see me run steam locos and mixed era rolling stock when the layout is set up for modern trains, or diesels when the layout is set up for the steam era with the wrong caboose or something. As for the question. No, I don't run things on my layout that I dislike, and if someone happens to give me an item for Christmas, my birthday or otherwise that I don't feel right about-which does occur from time to time, I accept it gratefully, then sale it on ebay or trade it to one of my model railroading buddies for something I prefer ASAP!... Tracklayer
jeez. you are cold dude. and from your last sentance, horrifically ungrateful... ebay or trade off something someone got you because it doesn't fit your rather strict guidelines? does it occur to you that perhaps whoever got you said gift did so out the kindness of thier heart and likely is not the expert on your particular modeling fetishes you would like them to be? Is model railroading a job or a hobby for you? if there is fun in modelling in such a way for you, kudos... but it sounds like you take the fun out of it for everyone else around you.
rant over. we may now return to our regularly scheduled thread.
Hello animal8526, and thank you for your observations. I make no apologies for being the way I am. I'm an extreme Misanthropic for which the meaning can be found in most dictionaries or on the web. Regards, Tracklayer
Lynda wrote: (sung to Lesley Gore's "It's My Party")etc. etc.
(sung to Lesley Gore's "It's My Party")
etc. etc.
Wasn't it Leslie's brother, AL, singing that?
I freelance, yet I freelance within a strict set of rules that I impose upon myself.
Why do I impose a strict set of rules on a freelance railway?
Simple, because when people look at my GER I want them to be able to easily identify the era and, if possible, the location. When people look at the GER I want them to believe it is a model of a real railway, set in a real time and location. In my mind, and in the written history which I use as a guide line for purchases, the GER really exists and I model it as it was in the not too distant past.
I do this because, "It's my layout" and that's the way I like it.
However, if Joe down the street wants to run tail chasing modern GE Superpower diesels, with intermodal cars trailing iced reefers letters for various colas and beers and boxcars lettered for American states or Canadian provinces and American theme parks all switched by a Shay in the yard, more power Joe. He gets his kicks out of his trains his way, and I get my enjoyment out of running and modelling my way. Neither of us is right nor wrong.
Cheers
Roger T.
Home of the late Great Eastern Railway see: - http://www.greateasternrailway.com
For more photos of the late GER see: - http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/
Milwhiawatha wrote:Isnt this really called freelancing? I will admit I like to run things that dont belong but its fun. Then theres the ones who run steam and diesels together cant one call this rail Excurions (spelling) ? I have boughten older equipment but I wont run them I just like how it looked.
I don't think anyone's saying you can't. Neither do I think anyone's saying freelancing's bad.
Actually, I really got a kick out of those modern NYC diesels I saw in another thread. Totally unprototypical, but way, way cool!!!
I just find it interesting when the "It's my layout" defense comes out because it makes me wonder if someone might believe that it's really not their layout (i.e., it has to, by gosh, be an exact replica of dumpty-dump so I can't have any fun with it). I sense (and I could be wrong) a perception among the less prototype-oriented modelers that the prototype guys have less fun because they've constrained themselves.
I thought about starting a thread regarding plausibility of layouts (both freelanced and prototype), but I figured for certain that would slide downhill into a slugfest. IMHO, constraining yourself to a time, place, collection of roadnames, and equipment leads to a more "plausible" layout, meaning one that requires less back-story for the casual observer to find believable. This can be done with freelancing. And, running steam and antique diesel excursions on a modern layout also fit within the limits of plausibility (assuming you're not double-heading a woodburning 4-4-0 with a Big Boy!).
Plausibility is not as important to some as it is to me, and I respect that.
Modeling the Rio Grande Southern First District circa 1938-1946 in HOn3.
off-topic- I'm happy- Thursday is over and tomorrow is FRIDAY!!!!!
I have no problem with the "it's my layout..." theory. I practice it myself (to an extent). Neither do I have a problem with the person that has to have EVERY detail perfect. As long as they keep that attitude to their own layout. I do model a prototype and several locations based on prototype locations, and my loco and rolling stock roster is loosely based on the era I model. It doesn't bother me to run a steam powered freight or passenger train (I've done that a lot lately). If you have a problem with seeing a 4-6-2 that dates form the 1940s pulling a freight from the early 1980s, I'll show you to the door.
Could someone actually point to some threads where, upon being criticized for running something non-prototype, someone actually responded "It's my layout, I'll run what I want?"
Now, there have been threads where someone asked if it's OK to run Engine A with car B and some have responded it's not proto but it's your layout so go ahead if you want, but that's really not what we're talking about here.
There seems to be a belief that folks are "chanting" this mantra in response to prototype questions. Hence, the request for pointers to threads in which this happened.
Mike Tennent
SteamFreak wrote: jecorbett wrote: I've always liked running mixed trainsThe proper term is "model railroad diversity." Trains from different railroads and different time periods all joining couplers and working together toward a common goal. It's *sniff* inspiring!Express your individuality. That's why I run a mink covered Big Boy.
jecorbett wrote: I've always liked running mixed trains
I've always liked running mixed trains
The proper term is "model railroad diversity." Trains from different railroads and different time periods all joining couplers and working together toward a common goal. It's *sniff* inspiring!
Express your individuality. That's why I run a mink covered Big Boy.
I hate to disillusion you, but they really haven't joined couplers. Some of this stuff still has the original horn hooks that it came with.
Some of the pieces have natural weathering, as in 20 years of dust collection.
BRAKIE wrote: jecorbett wrote: I've always liked running mixed trains Looks like a museum move!!
Looks like a museum move!!
That's inspired!
They say there is a prototype for everything.
You just gave one to me.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"