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Anyone else see this?
Posted by motard98 on Friday, December 22, 2006 9:25 PM

This has to be one of the the coolest new products on the market for 2007.

 I just wish it was available in N scale also. :(

 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/322-89001

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Posted by PA&ERR on Friday, December 22, 2006 10:47 PM

No, I don't believe anyone has. They were all too busy looking at this!

Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Friday, December 22, 2006 11:02 PM
Yep, pretty cool.

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Posted by jfugate on Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:56 AM
Cool alright, just not sure it's $750 worth of cool ... Shock [:O]

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Posted by Virginian on Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:16 AM
No, I had not seen it.  I do not feel better for having seen it now.  Possibly a totally new standard for overpricing in the making here.
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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:50 AM

First showed up here about a month ago.

$750 to watch paint dry?

I parked up next to a full size container terminal last Friday (for work).  It was so exciting! Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]

The crane moved along picked up a box, moved, put the box down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down, moved, picked up a box, moved, put it down...

Yeah... I definitely want to spend the equivalent of about ten good locos (five with sound) on that...

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Posted by PA&ERR on Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:18 AM
 Dave-the-Train wrote:

$750 to watch paint dry?

I parked up next to a full size container terminal last Friday (for work).  It was so exciting! Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]Zzz [zzz]

Come on Dave, admit it. If you were the man operating that crane you would have thought you had died and gone to heaven, right? Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by CNJ831 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:09 AM

An attempt by Walthers to see just how far they can push pricing before hobbyists, especially those guys who are simply collectors of HO train stuff, scream, "No more!"

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:24 AM
That is why we have tiny little automobiles to drive that cost less than $10,000 for folks who either like them or is all they can afford for a new car, while at the other end of the spectrum, we have ultra expensive super sports cars that cost well over $100,000. And somewhere in that mix of price is where the majority of buyers are. Isodel railroading or any hobby for that matter really any different? If money were no object, would you spring for the $750? Personally, I am not in the Super Sport class of buyers, my best wishes to those that are.
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Posted by RedGrey62 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:48 AM

I am a big fan of automation, unfortunately the crane is a bit too new for my era.  It seems the items made by the European manufacturers tend to cost more, could be tarrifs we impose on them, not sure.  I don't think $750 is totally unreasonable given what is offered.  I believe there is a drive-in movie offered by another company that is expensive as well.

And while the comment is correct that one could by several sound equipped locos for $750, I don't have the capability to run all the locos I have now.  Some one could easily make the crane the centerpiece of a switch layout with just 1 or 2 locos and have one heck of an operation.

 Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year to all and may you find your favorite roadname under the tree, in the mail box, or at a Boxer (or is it Boxing) Day sale.

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Posted by motard98 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:13 AM
I doubt that they are planning to produce more than a few hundred of these but I think it adds alot to an intermodal station.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:31 PM

Hmmm, and it's a KIT requiring assembly and programing. That should further limit the market to those with a brain, unfortunately I forsee the questions on the Forum on how do I assemble my new toy from those with more money than brains!

I am being way too sarcastic. It looks like a great item but bound to be very challenging even to the above average modeler/operator. Who is going to be the first with his/her own functioning intermodal terminal?

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Posted by Kurt_Laughlin on Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:32 PM

 RedGrey62 wrote:
It seems the items made by the European manufacturers tend to cost more, could be tarrifs we impose on them, not sure. 

This has come up before in the realm of plastic model kits, and as far as I know the US does not charge any duties or tariffs on toys/models.  The stuff's just more expensive.  Frankly I don't understand why Walthers imports the European stuff.  99% of it doesn't look like anything in this hemisphere, so unless you're making a replica of Busch Gardens or the Adler branch through Bad Schaffenburg, I can't imagine how they would sell more one or two of any Heljan/Faller item at the prevailing prices.

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Posted by PA&ERR on Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:39 PM

Excuse me while I wax philosophic for a moment...

Okay, if Walthers goes to the trouble of importing this very nifty (and very expensive) container crane kit, they are catering to the rich elite while gouging the rest of us poor schleps.Question [?]

However, if someone like Walmart sells stuff everybody needs at very affordable prices, they are exploiting the "working poor" while at the same time laying waste to "mom and pop" stores far and wide. Question [?]

God! I'm glad I don't work in retail! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by jecorbett on Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:59 PM
Fortunately, I don't model the modern era so I'm not even tempted to add this to my layout. If I did model present day, I'd probably think this is a way-cool, must-have item, whatever the price. Since my choice of eras has just saved me $750, I think I'll use the savings to buy 2 or 3 new sound equipped locomotives.
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Posted by 45T-2 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:02 PM

Cool? Yes. Expensive? Obviously.

 A potential buyer that hasn't been mentioned is a large model railroad club. If members pitched in, the price would be less of a shock. And a large layout with operations might be able to add another dimention to it's Op Sessions.

Also, a club having another "gee-whiz" item would attract visitors during open house hours.

Just a thought.

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Posted by motard98 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:40 PM
 motard98 wrote:

This has to be one of the the coolest new products on the market for 2007.

 I just wish it was available in N scale also. :(

 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/322-89001

 I should've looked harder I guess because there is one in N scale

http://www.hobbylinc.com/~hobbylinc/htm/bra/bra1151.htm

 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:57 PM
 motard98 wrote:

This has to be one of the the coolest new products on the market for 2007.

 I just wish it was available in N scale also. :(

 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/322-89001



I just might - repeat, MIGHT - be willing to fork out $750.00 for an N-Scale steam loke that would pull 60+ cars on the straight and level but I have a couple of 0-5-0 switchers that do a fantastic job loading and unloading stacks.

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Posted by claymore1977 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:57 AM
I must agree with the majority of the thread in saying that its really neat, but not $750 neat.  For that cash, it should come assmebled and be able to load and unload stacks all my itself... aka totally automated! :)

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:33 AM
You could build one yourself for considerably less...
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Posted by Metro Red Line on Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:49 AM
I actualy do model the modern era...but it's uiseless for my layout. Because the container terminals are over a hundred miles away and the container trains just pass through...
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Posted by jondrd on Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:23 AM

 Can't wait to see the price for O-Scale.

 How about Athearn's bathtub gon RTR for MSRP $99.98. See Model Railroader's new products week of 28-Dec.

 Not too far off: "The detail on that car is amazing. Is it brass?"

                       "No, but it is a very high quality plastic."

 Can't wait for a manufacturer to address the niche market by making car or engine body from carbon fibre. Think of the bragging rights: a truly exorbitant price and high tech material.

 

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