Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Who was the Canadian manufacturer of the Proto 1000 Alco RS-11?

3572 views
13 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: S.E. Adirondacks, NY
  • 3,246 posts
Who was the Canadian manufacturer of the Proto 1000 Alco RS-11?
Posted by modelmaker51 on Friday, December 1, 2006 4:27 PM

I need a set of handrails for a Proto 1000 D&H RS-11. Walthers evidently doesn't carry parts for this loco as it was a special run by the Canadian manufacturer of Proto 1000.

 Any help here appreciated.

 

Edit: They don't actually have to be D&H handrails, any set would do, but grey would be preferable.

Jay 

C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1 

Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums 

  • Member since
    August 2004
  • 2,844 posts
Posted by dinwitty on Friday, December 1, 2006 4:39 PM

isnt that bachmann? contact them directly

 

btw for other info, the prototype canadian equivelent of ALCO is MLW-Montreal Locomotive Works, they made the WP&Y DL-535 3 foot guage engines. 

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Ontario Canada
  • 3,571 posts
Posted by Mark R. on Friday, December 1, 2006 4:44 PM

The Canadian manufacturer is Hobbycraft Canada, however, they produced strictly limited numbers of Canadian roads like CN / CP / ON.  The D&H units were not produced by Hobbycraft. Parts for the American production runs of LL products "should" be available through Walthers.

Mark.

¡ uʍop ǝpısdn sı ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ 'dlǝɥ

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: BC, CANADA
  • 1,279 posts
Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, December 1, 2006 5:05 PM
 Mark R. wrote:

The Canadian manufacturer is Hobbycraft Canada, however, they produced strictly limited numbers of Canadian roads like CN / CP / ON.  The D&H units were not produced by Hobbycraft. Parts for the American production runs of LL products "should" be available through Walthers.

Mark.

 

They did RS 18's, not sure if they did any RS 11's (searched their site and nothing came up).  This is their main web site, try to e-mail for the parts:  www.hobbycraft.com

 

Good luck. 

Keep on Trucking, By Train! Where I Live: BC Hobbies: Model Railroading (HO): CP in the 70's in BC and logging in BC
  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: Peoria IL
  • 490 posts
Posted by cspmo on Friday, December 1, 2006 5:08 PM
Atlas did a D&H RS11. Could that be it.
Brian
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Ontario Canada
  • 3,571 posts
Posted by Mark R. on Friday, December 1, 2006 5:15 PM

Hobbycraft has done a lot of variations of the LL Proto 1000 engines. You won't find many on their website because they are very limited runs and usually sold out very quickly.

Mark.

¡ uʍop ǝpısdn sı ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ 'dlǝɥ

  • Member since
    July 2005
  • From: Ottawa, Ontario
  • 364 posts
Posted by accord1959 on Friday, December 1, 2006 8:45 PM
Who did the RS 18's, and were they low nose or only high nose?
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Whitby, ON
  • 2,594 posts
Posted by CP5415 on Friday, December 1, 2006 9:02 PM

I have a Proto D&H RS11.

They all came from Life-Like as Hobbycraft ordered the Canadain Livery on top of the US order.

 Gordon

Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H!

 K1a - all the way

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: BC, CANADA
  • 1,279 posts
Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, December 1, 2006 9:30 PM

Central Hobbies in Vancouver lists a P1000 RS 11, so they are out there for sure

Part
Number
Description Price in Canadian Dollars
RS11 RS11
883904 Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific, Rd# 3602 $158.65 CDN

 

 Again, give Hobby Craft a call or e-mail to see what they can do.

 

Keep on Trucking, By Train! Where I Live: BC Hobbies: Model Railroading (HO): CP in the 70's in BC and logging in BC
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Ontario Canada
  • 3,571 posts
Posted by Mark R. on Friday, December 1, 2006 9:56 PM

You guys seem to have gone off on a tangent .... in the original post, he's looking for handrails for a D&H engine - the D&H ENGINES WERE NOT produced by Hobbycraft !!!!  These engines were produced by / for Lifelike US and Walthers is the sole distributor for parts.

Mark.

¡ uʍop ǝpısdn sı ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ 'dlǝɥ

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: BC, CANADA
  • 1,279 posts
Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, December 1, 2006 10:12 PM
 Mark R. wrote:

You guys seem to have gone off on a tangent .... in the original post, he's looking for handrails for a D&H engine - the D&H ENGINES WERE NOT produced by Hobbycraft !!!!  These engines were produced by / for Lifelike US and Walthers is the sole distributor for parts.

Mark.

 

Jay says in his orginal post "Walthers evidently doesn't carry parts for this loco as it was a special run by the Canadian manufacturer of Proto 1000."  so he is trying to find out the origins which is Hobby Craft Canada, not Life Like/Walthers.  That's my read on it anyway, hence why I have posted what I have.  I assume from his post he has already contacted Walthers on this, if not he should do that first, then try Hobby Craft

And the Hobby Craft RS 11/18 handrails should fit regardless of road name.

Keep on Trucking, By Train! Where I Live: BC Hobbies: Model Railroading (HO): CP in the 70's in BC and logging in BC
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Ontario Canada
  • 3,571 posts
Posted by Mark R. on Friday, December 1, 2006 10:28 PM

Ok - for the record, I have two of the D&H Proto 1000 units. The instruction sheet right from the box indicates the following ....

Handrails are part #3 ( detail package #2 )

Warrantee Information and Assistance Call Toll Free 1-800-638-1470

Lifelike Products LLC, 1600 Union Avenue, Baltimore MD, 21211

There is no mention of any Canadian connection to these units, someone at Walthers is steering you in the wrong direction - maybe they don't know and had to come up with an answer of sorts. (?)

Mark.

¡ uʍop ǝpısdn sı ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ 'dlǝɥ

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: S.E. Adirondacks, NY
  • 3,246 posts
Posted by modelmaker51 on Saturday, December 2, 2006 12:25 AM

An update:

At the time of my original post my info was second hand. my friend, the owner of said RS-11 had called Walthers about the handrails and was told that "some" Canadian co. had made them. Not very helpful. So I inquired here, 'cuz for the life of me I couldn'y remember the name of the Candian distributor of L.L. Proto models, (seem to be losing memory brain cells at a very rapid rate sometimes!)

I have since talked to the very helpful Keith, the "train" repairman at Walthers.

According to him, US road RS-11s were indeed piggybacked on the Hobbycraft RS-10, RS-11 & RS-18 order as they shared the same chassis. They all were shipped from China to Hobbbycraft, the US Road units were  then shipped to Baltimore. I gathered that the physical transfer of factory stock and parts did not go so smoothly as they have just recently gotten things sorted out Anyway, there were no parts other than chassis' in stock for the RS-11. They have one owner's booklet for the RS-11! Either body parts were never produced for the US-bound units, or they were never shipped from Hobbycraft.

I will call Hobbycraft Sat. or Monday if they're closed and post back here with whatever I find out for anyone who might someday need some parts for this unit.

 

 

Jay 

C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1 

Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums 

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: S.E. Adirondacks, NY
  • 3,246 posts
Posted by modelmaker51 on Monday, December 11, 2006 2:37 PM

Update:

I have spoken to HobbyCraft of Canada and there are no Rs-11 handrails from them. The person I spoke to said they were shipped along with all the othr parts stock from L.L. Baltimore to Walthers but Walthers just hasn't found them yet. Sounds to me like nobody knows where they are and they're just passing the blame back and forth.

However, this guy did say that the HobbyCraft RS-18 handrails would fit, but since I'm in the US, I can't order them! So I'm going to have a friend in Canada get them for me. Boy, what a hassle for a set of handrails.

Jay 

C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1 

Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums 

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!