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Chop nosed Geeps...?

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Chop nosed Geeps...?
Posted by Dave-the-Train on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:22 AM

Has anyone made a model of any of the various chop nosed Geeps... and (come to think of it) did anyone chop the nose on any SDs... real as well as model... i.e. was there a chop nosed SD9 for example?

I'm wondering whether any of the replacement "thin wall" cabs in Walthers Catalogue would be any use for amending one of the P2K Geeps...?  Is it okay o take a slice out of the hood and simply brng the top down lower or would I be better to get a replacement nose as well?

On freight locos what was in tyhe high short hood anyway?

TIA Smile [:)]

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Posted by pike-62 on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:01 AM

I don't believe there were ever any models made of the low short hood SD7/9's. I would imagine there might be some made in brass. I cast my own for the SD9's from a master I kitbashed from some other kits. Here is a picture of one of the models I made. The picture is not real good but, you can see that it can be done. The model started life as a Proto 2000 SD9. I cast the hood, windshield and numberboard section and added them. I had to cut down the weight on the nose of the frame to fit under the low nose.

I am pretty sure that Canon & Co makes the kits to do this as well. I am sure there is someone on this group that knows the answer to this.

 

Later model SD's were low nose such as the SD45's as well as a host of others and most are offered as models.

I am probably wrong on this, but I think most of the short hood was filled with concrete to act as ballast

 

Dan Pikulski

www.DansResinCasting.com 

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Posted by ShaunCN on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:03 AM

recently i have been working on building a HO scale modle of a Western Maryland/Chessie system chope nose GP9, these were very distinctive looking with the nose beeing a bit higher than most chope nose designs, also they built them with a singel pane windsheild (except the first one got a two pane window) I did it on an athearn model, since a P2K model it to exspensive and also the metal weights inside the P2K units would have to me removed/cut to accomodate a lower hood. I neede teh lights and numberboards on the nose so i lowerd the top section of the hood down keeping the top and front but cutting away the sides, left o ghe model was the correct height sides of teh hood but the front was removed and replaced with the top section with lights and # boards already on it. a couple work in progress shots.

http://www.hostovsky.com/~shauncn/wmgp9front.jpg
http://www.hostovsky.com/~shauncn/wmp9side.jpg

 

AS far as the freight locos go for the high short hood.... not much was in there at all. I think a "fake" steam boiler was added anyway like all units for extra weight and tractive effort. Also there were chope nose SD9's too, BNSF did some not sure about others but likley so.  

derailment? what derailment? All reports of derailments are lies. Their are no derailments within a hundreed miles of here.
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Posted by RicHamilton on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:04 AM

Dave

kaslo shops made a Paduch GP10 and also did a custom run of GP9 chop noses

Kaslo's website www.kasloshops.com and an ebay auction (not mine) of a GP9 shell http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170044469051  Unfortuinately they are full shells, not just the cab and nose so are a little more money.  Some of Walthers GPs have chop noses as well.

 

Ric Hamilton Berwick, NS Click here to visit my Website
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Posted by Master of Big Sky Blue on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:06 AM

Walthers Makes a Chop Nosed GP9 in their Trainline Series. Its a good locomotive, but suffers from the fact that Walthers Aquired the tooling second hand, (The shell is the same as on the old COX GP9s) and has a wider than scale hood. But to me such concerns are minor, and its a good solid running locomotive at a very fair price.

James

"Well, I've sort of commited my self here, so you pop that clowns neck, I will shoot his buddy, and I will probably have to shoot the bartender too." ----- William Adama upon meeting Saul Tigh Building an All Steam Roster from Old Tyco-Mantua, and Bowser kits. Free Drinks in the Dome Car

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