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How much $$ do you spend a year on this hobby???

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:47 AM
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As with a number of the posters above, I've pretty much cut my hobby budget by 50% to 60% over the course of the past two years (formerly it was about $1500 per) and expect to cut it  further if the current national ecomonic situation doesn't improve soon.

The recent posts to this 5 year old thread cause me to wonder just who is keeping this hobby going financially? More than 15 years ago, when MR was still providing its readers with a profile of its "average" hobbyist, based on its own surveys, it was claimed that $1,000 was spent annually by the average model railroader. Now, many years later, the average generally indicated by recent posts seems typically a half of that figure and after factoring in inflation, would be closer to 1/3. Over the same interval, most model railroad items have increased dramatically in price. This tends to give me the impression that the majority of the more expensive products today must be being purchased by a rather small faction of modelers, rather than any broad multitide. I suppose that this is exactly what has spurred about everything for the hobby being offered only as limited runs and the prices, especially locomotives, rising to the sky with just about each new example offered. It also makes me wonder just how many of the manufacturers may currently be very near the edge of solvency.

CNJ831   

Adding to this, at least in my scale one thing I've also noticed is a ever increasing trend in marketing high price limited run items to a small pool of long established deep pocketed model railroaders, add to this the trend of only ever larger offering that require larger layouts that are ever more expensive, while almost ignoring the core base of modelers with average size layouts and the beginners entirely. I wonder if this trend is also true in HO.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:17 AM

Hi!

That is a hard question to answer, mainly because I have been in the hobby for a very long time.  I guess my "high dollar" time came from 1990 thru 2008, and each year would have easily been in excess of $1,000.  However, in the last 4 years, I have held winter Ebay auctions to facilitate upgrades of locos and to thin out a huge collection of cars/kits that I had stockpiled.  Then the proceeds went towards higher grade locos (BLI, Stewart, Kato) and passenger cars (Walthers).  So my out of pocket cost was much lower in these years.

May I share a story somewhat related to your question?    When I was "between wives" in the 1990s, I would of course show off my HO room filling layout to serious dates.  Their reaction typically gave an indication as to how we would fare as a "couple".  Ha, one lady was very successful in her career and I initially thought she would be a "keeper".  Well, the first words she said upon viewing the layout was "How much did all this stuff cost?"  Needless to say, we didn't last long together.

On the other end of the spectrum, my wife to be was genuinely impressed with the layout, asked a lot of sincere and meaningful questions, and hand painted several cattle and figures I had on hand that were in need of such.  She did an outstanding job, and needless to say we were married not long after.  Oh, her enthusiasm for the hobby (for me, not for her per se) remains high, and you can't ask for more than that.

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by CNJ831 on Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:08 AM

As with a number of the posters above, I've pretty much cut my hobby budget by 50% to 60% over the course of the past two years (formerly it was about $1500 per) and expect to cut it  further if the current national ecomonic situation doesn't improve soon.

The recent posts to this 5 year old thread cause me to wonder just who is keeping this hobby going financially? More than 15 years ago, when MR was still providing its readers with a profile of its "average" hobbyist, based on its own surveys, it was claimed that $1,000 was spent annually by the average model railroader. Now, many years later, the average generally indicated by recent posts seems typically a half of that figure and after factoring in inflation, would be closer to 1/3. Over the same interval, most model railroad items have increased dramatically in price. This tends to give me the impression that the majority of the more expensive products today must be being purchased by a rather small faction of modelers, rather than any broad multitide. I suppose that this is exactly what has spurred about everything for the hobby being offered only as limited runs and the prices, especially locomotives, rising to the sky with just about each new example offered. It also makes me wonder just how many of the manufacturers may currently be very near the edge of solvency.

CNJ831   

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:36 PM
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This thread is from 2003!
I didn't know you'se people had calendars up there in the Adirondacks!

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:34 PM

Half as much as I would like to but my wife says the figure is closer to twice as much as I should!

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:18 PM
This thread is from 2003!

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Posted by steamage on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:30 PM
While my layout is not finished, the major purchases for its construction is, those include track and switches along with engines and cars. Nowadays I spend up to about $500. a year, that would be for the new "just got to have it" things.

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Posted by aloco on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:34 PM
It depends on how many locomotives I buy.
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:06 PM

 vsmith wrote:
I dont keep track, that way I dont get shocked.

But I do try to stretch each buck. $100 is the top I will spend in a month time. That total not per item.

Holy Moly, 5 years later and my budget has actually gone down!!!

Try to limit it at $50 a month, but I'm trying not to buy anything at all, as money is very tight right now. Been forcing myself to kitbash and scratch build, as its much cheaper- if not almost free.

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Posted by pathvet9 on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:57 PM
I would say that I spent >$500 last year, but realize that I am only home to work and play half the year. I would hope that my "Major" expenses are behind me - ha, ha! - but I did just buy the Fast Track kit for turnouts so ..........Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:15 PM

My train budget is 20 bucks a week. Less if I don't make enough to cover everything else (school, gas, IRA, insurance, etc)

So that's about 1,040 a year.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:59 PM
Yes, it keeps the brass market viable, and I have hope of eventually owning one locomotive, the 2-10-4 Selkirk...now apparently delayed.
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Posted by tatans on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:52 PM
Strange we never hear from those guys who buy brass locomotive by the dozen or spend $4,000.00 on boxcars, yet on another subject they admit to massive layouts of money, also you guys who admit to ''too much'' is it because of embarrssment or shame?  It's nice to see people enjoying the hobby with limited budgets.
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Posted by Hawks05 on Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:07 PM
wow looking back at my post in this topic earlier. i said i'd like to spend at least $500 a year. well in about 2 months i've spent $400 i think or a little less. i may even spring for a locomotive tonight yet for $44.25. brand new P2K GP7 CNW RR. my mom is in love with the 400 train and on the side of this one it says something about the 400.

i don't know why but i'm severely hooked on this hobby. i've spent way to much money already and i have a car payment coming up and hopefully i'll be getting a laptop. i should cut back on magazine subscriptions. i mean i do get Sports Illustrated ($50 a year i think) The Sporting News, and ESPN the magazine. also i'm planning on getting MRR to.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:41 PM
I just started a 12x14 foot HO layout. So far I mostly have track and rolling stock . So far I have 43 engines C.P. and U.P. I also have about 125 cars. As far as price I don"t realy wan't to know.
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Posted by dave9999 on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:54 PM
I was trying to add it all up for the past 2 years, and I came up with around $2500. This includes benchwork,
Digitrax Zephyr, Broadway Limited 4-6-4 Hudson, Athearn genesis 2-8-2 Mikado w/soundtraxxdecoder,
P2K FA1-FB1 w/sountraxx, wathers roundhouse and turtable, 8 each smoothside and corrugated
passenger cars (16 total) by IHC, Kadee 508's for each passenger car,numerous structures,track,
bunches and bunches of scenic materials, switches,books, mags. I'll stop here,but there's more.
But these are the major purchases. My hobby shops love to see me coming. I figured over $600 in
scenery, structures and track alone. It can get out of hand but it is also worth the money! Dave

P.S. I forgot about the MRC DC power pack I bought before deciding to go DCC.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:04 AM
****Shakes head**** i just spent $730.00 this evening on Ebay...GOD WHY DO I DO THAT. LOL. All depends on what is out there, what i want, what i need, and what i think i dont really need but kinda still want but shouldnt buy but just have to have.

Id say so far in Fiscal Year 2003 i have spent well over $10000.00 And i still have a month and a half left. *sigh*
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 17, 2003 2:10 PM
I've spent relatively little this year--just under $300.00. I love H. O. scale and would spend 10 times that much if the budget permitted...but some belt tightening has been necessary of late. I'm hoping this is a momentary situation; every time I visit my local hobby shop, I see more and more new stuff I feel I just gotta have! Much of what I really wanted to purchase for my small layout however I have--everything else (like passenger trains sets and matching diesels or steam locomotives) I just purchase out of fear of limited production runs...and not being able to buy them in the future.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 6, 2003 3:48 AM
As much as I can without the wife freaking out. Last year it was close to $11,500, She didn't care then but sales have been down this year and she is freaking out. I will more than likely hit around 5 to 6 thousand this year. I too am starting to think I spend too much on my hobbies, but I won't say that to her. May this year bless everyone that enjoys the best hobby in the world.

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Posted by 64ss283 on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 11:00 PM
I have put all my N scale locomotives and cars on my computer (excel worksheet) and have come up with a total of $$$$$.$$ Canadian in three years. Still have not entered kato track, buildings, digitrax, wiring, microtrains,cars,trucks,trailers, etc. I have quit entering for now and do not want to see TOTAL amount, but love the hobby with so many new items to add to the collection.
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Posted by Jetrock on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 10:58 PM
I smoke, but one of the things that is making me want to quit is the fact that I could spend that money on more trains! I got back into the hobby about a year ago. Initially I spent around $150 a month, mostly because I was starting with very little and wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to model, so I kind of went on a spending spree.

This May I went on a trip to Chicago (on Amtrak, of course) and spent around $200-250 at pretty much every hobby shop in the Chicagoland area--especially Chicagoland Hobby, one of the few hobby shops I've found that carries a lot of traction equipment.

Lately I've spent about $50-70 a month, either at local hobby shops, eBay, or at Home Depot getting benchwork materials, but there is a model railroad show coming up next week and I plan on spending $150 in one shot. Winter is model railroad show season--I'll probably hit a few.

I'm something of a bargain hunter and wherever possible I try to make use of things I can find in the bargain bins, on sale, or for less-than-retail prices on eBay. But, of course, some things simply *must* be had, regardless of pain to the wallet, and some things are too neat to pass up...
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Posted by vw-bug on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 9:57 PM
Way to bloody much. That is if you were to as my wife. But look at it this way, it is a hole heck of a lot less that drinking smoking, more nudy clues. I think that is why my wife lets me off teh hook when I tell her I dropped $200 on a engine. I rarely do that any more as bills are getting bigger, lately I'b be surprised if I spend spend over $25 a month. But I'm always told slow and steady wins the race.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 9:54 PM
I don"t keep records of my hobby expenditures, but since I"ve been in HO Scale modeling for over thirty years, I have more now than I will ever need, but I would guess I still spend 400 to 600 dollars a year, Too much new stuff available for me to pass up on everything, like Atlas upcoming C40-8, Kato"s AC 4400 CW, and the new BLI sound equipped Locomotives. Later
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Posted by cp1057 on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 6:45 PM
Another penny pincher weighing in, I spent around $300 US this year. I'm glad that someone else is commenting on the rising price of HO equipment. Most of the money this year went into materials for rebuilding my layout, improving benchwork and the like.

As with so many other aspects of the consumer marketplace, it seems as though manufacturers are emphasizing high end products and a poor slob like me doesn't show up on their radar. I'm glad I built up my roster of locomotives (mostly Proto and IHC) before they started getting really expensive (for me at least)

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Posted by Hawks05 on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 5:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jackjackson

I am a young railroad fan and I wish I could spend much more but I spend just about $100 a year and I learn to make it satisfy my needs. My parents don't like it when I spend to much at one time though.


i hear you there. my parents, mainly my dad think model railroading is stupid, while my mom likes it for the most part, but still doesn't want me to do anything major.

i do have a job but i don't make as much as i'd like so i probably won't be able to purchase a lot right away. i get paid the 15th and last day of every month so my first check is spent on anything i want and my 2nd check is spend on making car payments and other stuff for the car. i found out that getting gas is a bugger when you don't make a lot.

anyways back to topic. saturday i'm going to a huge show so i plan on getting some books, track ($20, as i know who i'm getting it from), and maybe some cars or a cheap locomotive.

hopefully i'll be able to spend like $500 a year or so. averages out to be like $50 a month. if that though. always have to buy CDs so it will probably be limited on what i buy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 3:10 PM
Not very much working on a shoestring budget maybe spending about 200 a year will be spending as the funds(money) come in.Not going to go bankrupt on this hobby just buy things that I need to the building of the railroad.
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Posted by CNJ831 on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 12:33 PM
Nowadays about $50 a month. But before HO prices began to spiral upwards, it probably was well in excess of $100 a month because of impulse buying of items that I'd squirrel away for future use. Current pricing of most new loco's and rolling stock have cut off my desire to continue in that pattern and now I essentially buy only what I really need for immediate consumption.

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Posted by DavidH on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 12:00 PM
Not including the costs of building the "train room" in my new house last year (about $3500 Canadian), I probably spend about $3000 per year - 2250 or so US. Just magazines and books probably run $100 a month!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 5, 2003 11:53 AM
I havent worked it out - I'm too scared to but it's a lot for me., and it doesn't help running a British OO layout as well as getting started in American HO.

One thing I do know, It's about 10 times what my wife knows about.

Jon

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