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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:41 PM

My Wife's reply:   Too much!

My LHS's reply:   Not enough!

Little Baby Bear:   Just right!

Each of them has a valid point.  I've actually also fallen into the trap of buying a lot of stuff, so that I've got months of projects ahead of me, and I don't need any more.  I do, however, still buy something when it's on sale or when I don't think it will be available six months down the line.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:57 PM
 mononguy63 wrote:
I'm insanely jealous of anybody who can sink the kind of bucks into their trains as some of you guys. I'm still buiding my latest layout (constructed mostly from scrap lumber scavanged from home builder site scrap piles) and have put maybe, MAYBE, 100 bucks into the hobby this calendar year. I'll need to put in double that much again for roadbed & track and I can't presently say where that cash will come from.

Agreed.  Don't be.  You should be highly commended for your resourcefulness.  The more that I get into the hobby, the more I'm learning how to cut "$$$" corners without cutting "quality" corners.  Bottom line: In all likelihood, you'll probably enjoy and appreciate your layout more over time because you put more time and effort in it rather than just money.

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Posted by aloco on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:17 PM
Should I feel guilty? Nah. On the other hand, my model railroad purchases have slowed down this year. It's getting to the point where I have pretty much all I want and then some.
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Posted by Tilden on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:22 PM
Ditto Selector,  I have an entire Hobby Shop under the layout waiting to be built.
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:47 PM
This year I vowed to not spend anymore, but just as much.

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:01 PM
 Bill54 wrote:

Since February this year I've spent $8,800 on model railroading. 

This is my first year so there is an initial investment involved.  I purchased the NCE Power Pro Radio DCC system with a extra power pro cab, booster and power supply.  That alone was around $750.  Approximately 100 pieces of rolling stock.  More locos than I need, track, structures, repair parts, bench work and the list goes on. 

After having several hobbies in the past (Drag racing 68 GTO, Radio Control Race Cars, Slot Cars, Bass Fishing, Hunting) I've come to realize there is an initial cost then it tapers off.  I expect to spend a few hundred more this year probably bringing the total around $9K.  Next year and the years after that I expect it to drop down to around $1,000. to $1,200. 

Bill

Similar, just a year behind...  I spent about $10K last year, which was year one in a new house, with a large basement given over entirely to trains, building my 'dream' layout.

This year, far less. Maybe $2,000 and a bit of that "overlap" from the initial costs.

Going forward, probably $1,500-2,000 a year, which is about what I've spent historically too. Maybe even declining as over the years there's very little motive power or rolling stock left that I want but don't have. Some "volumizing" necessary given the much bigger layout, but even that's relatively minor - half-dozen cars here and there.

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Posted by PA&ERR on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:29 PM

Not as much as I did taking sailplane lessons! Laugh [(-D]

Yet...

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Posted by rn204 on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:19 PM

Not enough! 

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:53 PM

For you youngsters, don't be jealous, it's actually the other way around.

 

When you're still at home, or just starting out, you have nothing. It takes time to cover the basics, like an extra bag of sugar for coffee.

 

Then more time to assimilate some tools, a few bucks here, a few bucks there. After 30 or 40 years of scratching and clawing to make many small purchases, you have a lot of extra stuff and life becomes somewhat comfortable.

 

But your bills go up too. Bend over to pick up that dropped screw at the advanced and decrepit age of 45, and you might be looking at $20,000 in back surgury. The insurance companies know this, that's why we have to spend thousands a week just for basic health insurance.

 

You kids have the best deal. You claw for an extra $50 in fin money, while we claw for an extra hundred grand in rainy day Geritol stockpiles, we all have to work through cash flow issues.

 

But you kids have the energy and physical ability to ENJOY that extra cash a lot more than us old-timers, so when we scare up a few spare coins, we have to limit our excitement to avoid rupturing overstrained aortas. Our idea of a mad money celebration is sneaking in an extra cigar after dinner, with the lights turned off to save a few pennies on the electric bill, so we can splurge on a two pack of Kadee #58's.

 

Kids rule the orld, us old guys are just trying to hang on, fingernails folding back as we loose our grips on power and the gray fog of senility creeps in.

 

Why, back in ought four, I remember when ballast still cost a nickle a ton and....hmmm forgot what I was going to say...

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:54 PM
Well reading this now I don't feel so bad.  I knew I was spending way too much so I started tracking. I've recorded almost every purchase since then. My high was in 2000, at that time I actually remember walking into the hobby store and not finding anything I didn't already have that I wanted.  It was the only time that has EVER happened.  Soon after that I put myself on a budget.  Unfortunately this year I blew it all in the first two months with the Broadway Limited California Zephyr cars.  Now I don't know what to do for the Empire Builder cars (whimper).

This is a major reason I tell people to pick a RR to model, era, and location and stick to it religiously.  It will save big bucks in the end.
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Posted by spidge on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:23 PM
I refuse to add it up as the little woman may/will figure it out and want the equivelant in nail and beuaty shop trips.

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Posted by mustanggt on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:40 PM

Too much........Although the amount is starting to shrink since I purchased the  <cough> Trans Am.....The insurance is terrible, not to mention the fuel economy......

You all thought I drove a Mustang, right?Cool [8D]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 AM

On this incarnation of my layout I've already spent over $2,000 and it's only been 7 months.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:54 AM

Well..If you count the building it self, and then the up-grade of the Trainroom within the building (heating, lighting, insulation, ceiling, moving windows, doors and the like), it's way more than I would have anticipated!

When I was able, I spent my coaching checks (just under 4K per year x 8 years) on the Trainroom up-grades, benchwork, backdrops, lighting, tools, backshop, paintshop, rolling stock, locos, structures, track, turnouts....... Basically I have the hobby shop (most everything I need to put it all together) on the shelves in the next room. Thus, projects to last a life time! And I haven't spent a lot for a number of years now. 

With that said; I do spend a few hundred  (probably around $300 - $400) per year on "stuff". Mainly drywall mud, paint, adhesive, some extra turnouts, scenic details....that sort of thing. And, of course, occasionally some rolling stock or a loco I just have to have!

It's much cheaper than getting drunk and landing in jail....

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Posted by Tracklayer on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:45 AM
 cwclark wrote:
 Tracklayer wrote:
 cwclark wrote:

If i had to guess i'd say about $1,200 to $1,500 a year...it's slowed down a bit since most of the expensive stuff is done so far....the best part is, my wife usually picks up the tap...it's her way of keeping me at home and out of the beer joints.... ;)       chuck

Okay Chuck. I see how you are. You reply to my post about how much money goes into the hobby each year but not my e-mail asking about the caboose antenna last week... Some brother railroader you are - and it was a Southern Pacific caboose too... That's okay. Be that way.

Tracklayer

marc,

Give me a break brother!...I did reply to your e-mail yesterday....My home computer was in the shop the last two weeks getting a new hard drive installed and the only computer I have access to is at my work and they block out e-mail sites....I just got your e-mail yesterday and i did reply...sorry,...by the way...did you get my reply yet?...chuck

Hi Chuck. No, no e-mail yet, but then, my e-mail service isn't the best in the world either... It's okay brother. Don't worry about it. I was just having a little fun with you. The fact is I did find out what the original Atlas antenna looked like and I didn't think much of it, so I made my own that looks like the dish style. Thanks just the same. I understand your problem. We'll be talking to you.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:05 AM

I dont know how much over 3 decades.

I think it's somewhere around 1200 a year give or take a little bit.

I do know that I am approaching the limits of my rolling stock and engines and less money will be spent on these. As a good model railroader I will always buy engines and cars.

The last 8 years or so I have been fairly consistent with a few ouchie big ticket items along the way totally destroying the budget and requiring additional expenditure and labor in the salt mines to pay off the indulgences. Spouse holds the keys to joy or pain so one must plan carefully.

I might acquire a specific brass engine one of these days but it is so expensive in the 4 figures that Broadway Limited or someone else is likely to produce it for a few hundred complete with DCC and Sound before I finish saving for the big brass. I dont see the cost of the brass justified anyhow. The money is best used towards paying off Debt.

I see money as a tool and make plans ahead of time. Unfortunately that means scanning PDF files issued by RTR manufactors months before the items are due to hit the street.

One advantage is sometimes prices drop on that limited run locomotive and you could probably get two for the retail cost of one 6-12 months of waiting. But you gotta be absolutely ready to get a copy on sight.

It is nice to have just one trainset to enjoy or a 20,000 dollar home layout. There are many hobbies that costs money each month.

I still say that running trains keeps one out of the ER and other trouble like the street. That is priceless.

We ruthlessly cut down on big box retailers and other unnecessary expenditures in favor of the small stores like the Hobby Shop. Where I live there are alot of people who would go to a local fast food joint to get dinner on thier way home from work. I say fix dinner fresh in the kitchen and save the money. That is how we do it anyways.

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:29 PM

I don't have an exact figure but I estimate somewhere around $6,000-7,000 this year.  Included in this is about $1500 for DCC system and decoders.  I expect to spend about another $1,000 by year's end.  Next year should be less but I don't have a set budget.

 

 

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Posted by NS2591 on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:44 PM
Too Much. two weekends ago trip the LHS I was about 170 bucks. A month close to 80 depends on how much money I have that month, and I can do anything to my layout. This week I spend 76 dollars on some new Kato Superliners. I would have spent the extra 24 dollars at the LHS but I wanted to have them for a Train show I will be running on the N scale modular layout I help out with. And I couldn't come up with 105 dollars(includes tax) before then
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Posted by CMSTPP on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:02 PM

Over the course of the summer here in duluth I can easily spend 2+ grand on model trains.. I just choose not to. Not that I don't want to but for the sake that I need a lot of that money. But over a year I will spend maybe 2000 dollars. I've got a quite a few shows I attend!Smile [:)]

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Posted by ngartshore350 on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:07 PM

Too much,

Too frightened to add up the numbers. I'd say more now that manufacturers seem to run batches and you have to grab it while you can or potentially miss out.

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Posted by geocan on Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:07 PM

High 6 figures. 

Oh, wait, we own an internet hobbyshop! 

That might have something to do with it.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by ShadowNix on Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:35 PM

Too much or too little, I never seem to know.   Mondo hit the nail on the head about a few points.   If my wife complains (which she RARELY does) about my $100-$300 per month spending, she quickly realizes that it could be worse: I  could be spending that much chasing a lil' white ball around a nicely manicured lawn, gambling or worse, at a bar.  The advantages are SO many, but as mondo said, she always knows where I am, we have our alone time (VERY important in a marriage), and the lil' ones LOVE it (gives her more alone time when I am building/working on it with them).   Of note, it does help that I sometimes wait to make "big" purchases until after she buys a pair of shoes, a dress, etc... Tongue [:P]  Hard for her to complain then!!!

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Posted by gapotter09 on Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:04 PM

I have been in N-Scale since 1968-1969.  One does not realize ones accumulation until you sit down and do a replacement cost for insurance.  A Passenger Station kit that cost $33.00 in 1983 now has a replacement cost of $69.00 in 2006.  Some of your older engines may not be as good as the ones made today, however, consider that you can not replace some of them since they are no longer made.

My average would be approximately $800.00 to $1,000.00 per year.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by daverailrd on Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:58 PM

Don't feel bad.  I keep track of all my purchases in Quicken om my computer and I spend about $3000.00 a year.  I was shocked the first time I checked but what the heck.  We all have our weaknesses.  Mine is model railroading.  I do expect it to decline a bit after the layout is complete but then I may start over as many have.  There's nothing like a few good operating sessions to point out the flaws.

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Posted by Sydney on Friday, October 27, 2006 12:11 AM
I would only spend about AU$100 per year on the hobby now, however over a lifetime I have probably spent about AU$20,000 on both HO and N scale European engines, rolling stock and buildings, etc. Some of this stock is currently being used to build a 4ft x 8ft N scale layout - lots of fun and worth every cent! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by snorengeorge on Friday, October 27, 2006 7:15 AM

Sorry to say but nothing. Several trips to the Hobby Shops and 6 or 8 Train Shows have left this fixed income person in shock. The prices have gone way beyond what we old folks can afford.. Be putting money into finishing the basemen so as tohave a room for my layout (N Scale). Gess I'll have lots of room left over as I will use what I presently have in boxes. Maybe I can get on Deal or No Deal.

 

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Posted by jblackwelljr on Friday, October 27, 2006 7:58 AM

Since December 1, 2005, I’ve spent exactly $2466.99 in a newbie start-up mode, and that covers everything down to Exacto blades.  I keep track on a spreadsheet because that way I can defend myself if my wife makes an uninformed general statement like “you’re spending too much on trains.”

 

It’s certainly a lot less than I’ve spent over the years collecting guitars.  Since she’s hooked on QVC and HSN or whatever,  I don’t catch too much flack. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 27, 2006 9:27 AM
Wow - all you guys that have to justify or hide your train expenditures...

My wife realizes that I have a hobby. She's cool with that. That hobby costs me (us) a certain amount, and she's cool with that. too. She doesn't care because she knows I'm not going to spend us into living under a bridge, eating dirt and bugs. I would spend the same amount whether I was married or not...

...of course it doesn't hurt my situation that <her> hobby is scuba-diving in Cozumel...

...and the answer is about $2500 a year.
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Posted by Blue Flamer on Friday, October 27, 2006 12:54 PM
I am not sure how much I have spent since about '02 when I started to collect some Motive Power and Rolling Stock for my anticipated 3'X6' N scale empire. Our old computer that I had everything listed on an Excel Spreadsheet has crashed and burned.

I have ten engines, two steam, two RDC units, a couple of powered "B" units, one switcher and the rest "A" units. I also have about forty rolling stock which includes the Kato California Zephyr set.

One Sunday afternoon while we were browsing around the not so local H S, I was eyeing a particularly nice model with the clerk when, "She who shall not be named" strolled over and anounced to the clerk and myself, "He is not buying anything else until he gets what he already has up and running".

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, that little boot in the butt gave me the impetus to go out and get some of the materials to start the benchwork. I now have track down and trains running, (D.C.) and am about to start the scenery.

Don't get me wrong, "She who shall not be named" has no problem with me spending the money on my hobby as we are reasonably comfortable in our own home with no debts other than what comes in on a monthly basis. (I hummed and hawed about the Zephyr because of the price, but She who shall not be named said, "If you like it and you want it, BUY IT"). So I did.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 27, 2006 1:53 PM

None yet..... I just started and will probably spend about $450 to $600 on the Loco, rolling stock, track and power pack.  Do you guys buy direct from the manufacturer (Atlasrr.com, Walthers.com, etc...) or do you shop at your local dealers? 

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