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Chains on Tender Trucks ?

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Chains on Tender Trucks ?
Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:08 AM

One of my C&O locos has chains on the tender attached to the trucks

Does any one know why they did this ?

Thanks

Terry

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Posted by orsonroy on Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:42 AM
The chains are on tender trucks to keep them with the tender body in case of a derailment. All steam engines should have them, but very few models come with them (P2K and some brass is about it). They're pretty easy to add ot a model: add hooks to both the trucks and to the tender frame, and hang some chains. ACC one end only, so the trucks will remain removeable.

Ray Breyer

Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:53 AM

Orsonroy,

I agree with your assessment of why the chains were on tender trucks, but having been raised in southern Illinois along the Illinois Central and Missouri Pacific railroads I don't agree that every tender had them.  In fact, I don't remember ever seeing chains on any tenders of these two roads, and I spent a lot of time at their roundhouses.

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Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:42 AM
Chains were primarily used on high speed steam engines notably passenger engines.  The idea was to keep things going in a straight line in the event of a derailment.  Killing or maiming passengers was never a money making proposition.
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:32 PM

 ndbprr wrote:
Chains were primarily used on high speed steam engines notably passenger engines.  The idea was to keep things going in a straight line in the event of a derailment.  Killing or maiming passengers was never a money making proposition.

The same reasoning puts chains on most passenger trucks.  In a derailment, keeping the wheels more or less in line with the centerline of the car causes the cars to remain more or less in line with the rails.  Compare that to a freight wreck, which typically accordions.  Rolling stock is designed to take a lot of longitudinal stress, but not nearly as much lateral or vertical stress.  This is especially true of locomotives (all types) and steam locomotive tenders.

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Posted by orsonroy on Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:48 PM
 cacole wrote:

Orsonroy,

I agree with your assessment of why the chains were on tender trucks, but having been raised in southern Illinois along the Illinois Central and Missouri Pacific railroads I don't agree that every tender had them.  In fact, I don't remember ever seeing chains on any tenders of these two roads, and I spent a lot of time at their roundhouses.

Hmm...I sort of assumed that the chains were in virtually every tender.

I just flipped through Richard Bessette's new IC steam book (2000+ IC steam photos), looking for tender chains. While they do show up in every builder's photo after about 1890, they're not common after an engine was rebuilt a couple of times. Steam switchers seem to mostly lack them completely, while they're on most road engines that don't have Commonwealth two axle trucks.

I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of NYC and AMC influenced roads, like the NKP, P&E, and others, all of which had chains on every tender, including the yard engines.

So I guess the moral of this story is check your prototype!

Ray Breyer

Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943

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