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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:27 PM

I am kinda of scruffy looking myself..As far as my attire it will depend on several things..On a summer day its blue jean shorts and pocket tee shirt with a hat.Other days it may be a pair of faded jeans and pocket tee shirt..

Anyway any time you are out and about always keep your wits about you and survey the area after you leave a place of business...Never look mouse looking for a cat..In other words don't look like a scared victim.

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Posted by dw57 on Friday, September 29, 2006 12:25 AM
The 2nd amendment , and the bill of rights help make America  the great country that she is.
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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Friday, September 29, 2006 4:37 AM

About 3 years ago at The Rider's Hobby Shop in Kalamazoo, Michigan there was an obnoxious stranger incident. Rider's Hobby Shop had all windows in the front looking South on Portage, Michigan.

Some stranger to the store walked into the shop.

This guy looked almost identical to the actor who played Mr. Bean on that Thames Television show Mr. Bean, but he was severely dressed down and had stubble. 

He immediately grabbed the most expensive, high-end Lionel Steam Locomotive in a box that was sitting on the shelf.

He never took out a wallet, a money clip, or a credit card.

This Mr. Bean type guy stood in line holding the box for about 40 seconds. From out of nowhere he started to scream and yell and curse that the line was not moving fast enough.

That was enough to get Tom Burton irritated. He forcefully told this stranger to get out of the store several times.

Thankfully this stranger left.

He never did show that he had any money or credit, so why did he start yelling? He was probably doing it as a distraction to steal something, but it did not work.

It was absurd.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, September 29, 2006 6:54 AM

 Andrew Falconer wrote:
He was probably doing it as a distraction to steal something, but it did not work.

Or did it?  Suppose this guy was the distraction, while a conventionally-dressed, washed and clean-shaven accomplice pocketed a handful of small but pricey items, then bought a copy of MR for a few bucks and left, looking like an ordinary customer.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, September 29, 2006 7:07 AM

Oh, the tangled web we weave, when our intent is to deceive.

I've seen that distraction number pulled several times, often times, successfully.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, September 29, 2006 11:52 AM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:

Oh, the tangled web we weave, when our intent is to deceive.

I've seen that distraction number pulled several times, often times, successfully.

 

You are correct..97% of the bad guys are smarter then the general public gives them credit in being and it may take years to bust up a ring of con artist,pick pockets,shoplifters,illegal gamblers(called "professional cheaters") and other illegal groups that found ingenious ways of ripping off honest business men and the general public.. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 29, 2006 1:42 PM

The second amendment is part of the bill of rights

 

 dw57 wrote:
The 2nd amendment , and the bill of rights help make America  the great country that she is.

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Posted by dw57 on Friday, September 29, 2006 9:02 PM
That was my point, but maybe we should get back to trains.
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Posted by Tracklayer on Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:00 AM

 dw57 wrote:
The 2nd amendment , and the bill of rights help make America  the great country that she is.

Sorry dw57, I must have missed something. Please explain to me what the bill of rights has to do with this topic... Thanks.

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Posted by twcenterprises on Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:07 AM

Oh well, we're this far off topic, I might as well.

In my trade as a professional tourist (truck driver) I have dealt with many of these types.  Some of the panhandlers around Atlanta make a killing.  One local news station did a report, had a reporter dress up in old clothes and panhandled for 8 hours, and shot video of the "pros" with hidden cameras.  The reporter came up with several thousand dollars (which was donated to charity), and video showed some of the "bums" leaving in expensive luxury and sports cars.  One "bum" was even followed to his home, in a fancy, upscale neighborhood.

I have, in the past, had the "bums" offer to unload my truck (which I turned down), wash the windshield, polish the aluminum wheels and fuel tanks, been approached by the "ladies of the night" even in broad daylight, and nearly everything else.  I try to steer clear of these guys when I can; it always seems to start off with "got a light/got a smoke?"  I don't smoke, and say so, and then I get the "got a buck?", to which I say (truthfully) no, bill collectors got it.  I have even asked the bums if they had a dollar, and could I borrow it.  One bum seemed scandalized by my asking, he started saying "it don't work like that", and I said "that's why I'm out here doing this, to earn money."

I do admire the one bum who had a sign that said "Need money for booze, dope, and women.  At least I'm honest."  Talk about truth in advertising.  He was probably the one bum who really needed the money to eat on, or for a true sob story.

I do trust my instinct/gut feeling/whatever you want to call it.  It's what I call part of using your common sense and street smarts/streetwise.  You have to in my profession in this day and age.

I heard of one driver who was in NYC waiting for his delivery to open, when he was awakened late at night.  The driver only opened his window an inch or so, but the guy said he needed access to a driveway the driver had blocked, and if he could pull up about 4 feet or so, he could go about his business.  So the driver pulls up 4 feet, and goes back to bed.  He wakes up to find his outer 8 tires have been removed.  Seem as though when he pulled up, he pulled onto 2x4 blocks, raising the outer wheels off the ground enough for the theives to remove.

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Posted by johncolley on Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:29 PM

It also makes you want to be "extra cautious" when it comes to credit card receipts, eh? jc5729

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:34 PM
My father goes through his mail and tears out everything that has ID info on it and chews it up until it's totally unreadable before throwing it away.

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Posted by aloco on Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:37 PM
Please close this thread.
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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:35 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

 Andrew Falconer wrote:
He was probably doing it as a distraction to steal something, but it did not work.

Or did it?  Suppose this guy was the distraction, while a conventionally-dressed, washed and clean-shaven accomplice pocketed a handful of small but pricey items, then bought a copy of MR for a few bucks and left, looking like an ordinary customer.

If the distraction to steal something did work they were very clever. "Mean Mr. Bean" was not dirty or smelly just dressed in outdoor work clothes. He looked like he did not wear work clothes normally. He was rather stiff in his posture. Those clothes looked like a stage costume on him. If there was a main shoplifter, that guy came in much earlier and left a lot later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:15 PM

 aloco wrote:
Please close this thread.

Based on what? Email Bergie and let him decide if the thread is a problem in the forums.

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