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Kalmbach, we need a PHOTO GALLERY
Posted by vsmith on Monday, September 22, 2003 10:31 AM
To Kalmbach Publishing,

This is a great web forum but it is missing one thing... A members Photo Gallery so we can post photos of layouts, locos, projects, etc.

Its one thing to read about someones latest project, advice, etc. Why not let us the reader be able to share what it is we are working on with other readers?

Seams like a good idea and it would allow those of us without webpages to share our work.

How about it?

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Kalmbach, we need a PHOTO GALLERY
Posted by vsmith on Monday, September 22, 2003 10:31 AM
To Kalmbach Publishing,

This is a great web forum but it is missing one thing... A members Photo Gallery so we can post photos of layouts, locos, projects, etc.

Its one thing to read about someones latest project, advice, etc. Why not let us the reader be able to share what it is we are working on with other readers?

Seams like a good idea and it would allow those of us without webpages to share our work.

How about it?

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 22, 2003 12:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

To Kalmbach Publishing,

This is a great web forum but it is missing one thing... A members Photo Gallery so we can post photos of layouts, locos, projects, etc.


I agree totally. Over on the Atlas forum theres a great Sunday photos thread on both the HO and N scale forums, where members post shots of what modelling they've done over the week. Terrific fun

Jon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 22, 2003 12:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

To Kalmbach Publishing,

This is a great web forum but it is missing one thing... A members Photo Gallery so we can post photos of layouts, locos, projects, etc.


I agree totally. Over on the Atlas forum theres a great Sunday photos thread on both the HO and N scale forums, where members post shots of what modelling they've done over the week. Terrific fun

Jon
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Posted by dehusman on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:12 PM
Plus it might be a way to "troll" (fishing term, not internet term) for layouts and articles.

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Posted by dehusman on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:12 PM
Plus it might be a way to "troll" (fishing term, not internet term) for layouts and articles.

Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:40 PM
sure would be nice to see other modeler's work without having to post photos somewhere else and link to them...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 22, 2003 4:40 PM
sure would be nice to see other modeler's work without having to post photos somewhere else and link to them...

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Posted by douginut on Monday, September 22, 2003 8:27 PM
I don't mean to be at all offensive but this has a downsite too without serious and constant moderation.


several years ago on "Alt.bin.pictures.trains" newsgroup a dear friend told us all a story of having his seven year old grandson for a visit and to show his daughter and grandson the educational opportunities and the somthing for everyone of the medium.
His grandson thrilled to the variety of beautiful pictures of trains and railroad subjects and clicked quickly from M10000, to Zephyr, to Amtrack, to Via to Europe and Paraguay, then my friend turned away for a moment to say something to his daughter. A concerned yip came from his grandson "Grandpa! She's gonna catch COLD!"

'Nuff Said...

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Posted by douginut on Monday, September 22, 2003 8:27 PM
I don't mean to be at all offensive but this has a downsite too without serious and constant moderation.


several years ago on "Alt.bin.pictures.trains" newsgroup a dear friend told us all a story of having his seven year old grandson for a visit and to show his daughter and grandson the educational opportunities and the somthing for everyone of the medium.
His grandson thrilled to the variety of beautiful pictures of trains and railroad subjects and clicked quickly from M10000, to Zephyr, to Amtrack, to Via to Europe and Paraguay, then my friend turned away for a moment to say something to his daughter. A concerned yip came from his grandson "Grandpa! She's gonna catch COLD!"

'Nuff Said...

Doug, in Utah
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:41 AM
One thought, if you post pictures will they not become Kalmbach property to plublish and exploit as they see fit? Everything we post on this site is already their property as this site is copyright and it's in the user agreement you agreed to to get a user name. Want to give away your pictures?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:41 AM
One thought, if you post pictures will they not become Kalmbach property to plublish and exploit as they see fit? Everything we post on this site is already their property as this site is copyright and it's in the user agreement you agreed to to get a user name. Want to give away your pictures?
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Posted by n2mopac on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:16 AM
I personally think it is a great idea. Yes, it would need monitoring/editing to keep undesired photo content off, but the editors keep a pretty close eye on these forums for unwanted written content. I personally am not concerned about the use of any photo I would put on this site. If I had photo's I wanted to keep for some other use and not have published, I simply would not put them on the site. It would be nice, however, to be able to see a sampling of what others are doing--those who may never be published in MR or other such publications.
Ron

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Posted by n2mopac on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:16 AM
I personally think it is a great idea. Yes, it would need monitoring/editing to keep undesired photo content off, but the editors keep a pretty close eye on these forums for unwanted written content. I personally am not concerned about the use of any photo I would put on this site. If I had photo's I wanted to keep for some other use and not have published, I simply would not put them on the site. It would be nice, however, to be able to see a sampling of what others are doing--those who may never be published in MR or other such publications.
Ron

Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado. 

Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy

Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings

 

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:31 AM
Flee-man

The answer to that is, if you dont want to risk it, dont submit it.

No one is saying you "have to" participate. Personally I would love to see other peoples work and submit my own, if for nothing else feedback, what works, what didnt work, even if there is criticism I think we are grown up enough to take it constructively. If Klambake decides to "publish" projects in a readers "Photo Gallery" in thier magazines, even better. If your work is good enough to be published maybe other mag's will want to publish it (loco, building,layout,?) and MR or Garden RR will do a full article on it. Remember, Exposure is Good, Gets people excited about their work.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:31 AM
Flee-man

The answer to that is, if you dont want to risk it, dont submit it.

No one is saying you "have to" participate. Personally I would love to see other peoples work and submit my own, if for nothing else feedback, what works, what didnt work, even if there is criticism I think we are grown up enough to take it constructively. If Klambake decides to "publish" projects in a readers "Photo Gallery" in thier magazines, even better. If your work is good enough to be published maybe other mag's will want to publish it (loco, building,layout,?) and MR or Garden RR will do a full article on it. Remember, Exposure is Good, Gets people excited about their work.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by douginut

I don't mean to be at all offensive but this has a downsite too without serious and constant moderation.


several years ago on "Alt.bin.pictures.trains" newsgroup a dear friend told us all a story of having his seven year old grandson for a visit and to show his daughter and grandson the educational opportunities and the somthing for everyone of the medium.
His grandson thrilled to the variety of beautiful pictures of trains and railroad subjects and clicked quickly from M10000, to Zephyr, to Amtrack, to Via to Europe and Paraguay, then my friend turned away for a moment to say something to his daughter. A concerned yip came from his grandson "Grandpa! She's gonna catch COLD!"

'Nuff Said...

Doug, in Utah


Could happen but I dont think so.

Even with reasonable monitoring I dont think the users of this forum would want to risk being banned for life by doing something stupid like posting "nudie" photos. Even if someone did, its not like they are going to not leave an electronic ID that can be traced and blocked.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by douginut

I don't mean to be at all offensive but this has a downsite too without serious and constant moderation.


several years ago on "Alt.bin.pictures.trains" newsgroup a dear friend told us all a story of having his seven year old grandson for a visit and to show his daughter and grandson the educational opportunities and the somthing for everyone of the medium.
His grandson thrilled to the variety of beautiful pictures of trains and railroad subjects and clicked quickly from M10000, to Zephyr, to Amtrack, to Via to Europe and Paraguay, then my friend turned away for a moment to say something to his daughter. A concerned yip came from his grandson "Grandpa! She's gonna catch COLD!"

'Nuff Said...

Doug, in Utah


Could happen but I dont think so.

Even with reasonable monitoring I dont think the users of this forum would want to risk being banned for life by doing something stupid like posting "nudie" photos. Even if someone did, its not like they are going to not leave an electronic ID that can be traced and blocked.

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Posted by Puckdropper on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:14 PM
Most ISPs provide webspace for a user to use. If one wants to put thier photos up there, and link to them, that's one way to share them.

There are probably sites out there that'll let you upload photos and share them. Geocities will not work.
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Posted by Puckdropper on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:14 PM
Most ISPs provide webspace for a user to use. If one wants to put thier photos up there, and link to them, that's one way to share them.

There are probably sites out there that'll let you upload photos and share them. Geocities will not work.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:26 PM
Try trainweb.org for FREE web hosting for train buffs. I just wanted people to be aware of the facts. FRED
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:26 PM
Try trainweb.org for FREE web hosting for train buffs. I just wanted people to be aware of the facts. FRED
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:46 PM
At the Atlas Forum on Sundays, the HO and N scale forums have a photo night of items built, to brag about, to display.... what have you. This picture format is very popular.

You can get free image storage at www.trainboard.com

Here are some links to Sunday Nite Foto-Fun from the N scale forum. Don't try and read them all, over two hundred replies or more. Instead just scan for pictures, I promise you, you'll be impressed.

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28619

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28230

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27872

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27521

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27151


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:46 PM
At the Atlas Forum on Sundays, the HO and N scale forums have a photo night of items built, to brag about, to display.... what have you. This picture format is very popular.

You can get free image storage at www.trainboard.com

Here are some links to Sunday Nite Foto-Fun from the N scale forum. Don't try and read them all, over two hundred replies or more. Instead just scan for pictures, I promise you, you'll be impressed.

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28619

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28230

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27872

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27521

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27151


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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:36 PM
This site contains 5 great mags with lots of great pictures every month + the annual contests. Why not start with an archived gallery of published photos? Can you imagine what a CD of MR&T files would be worth? National Geo who?
The Weather Underground has a great site for sharing pictures submitted by the members. May cost $5.00 per year. The pictures are grouped by location & subject. They also have a rate-a photo feature. Perhaps the best photo submitted each month could be used in the magazine?
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:36 PM
This site contains 5 great mags with lots of great pictures every month + the annual contests. Why not start with an archived gallery of published photos? Can you imagine what a CD of MR&T files would be worth? National Geo who?
The Weather Underground has a great site for sharing pictures submitted by the members. May cost $5.00 per year. The pictures are grouped by location & subject. They also have a rate-a photo feature. Perhaps the best photo submitted each month could be used in the magazine?
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Posted by MRTerry on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:28 AM

This is an interesting question, and one we've wrestled with for some time. On the plus side, we know that photos are popular (we enjoy looking at them also), they're a great source of modeling tips, and a gallery could help us as we search for layouts to showcase and potential authors. On the minus side, they would slow the site down, and inappropriate content could be a problem. At this point we think the minuses outweigh the plusses, but we reconsider this question fairly frequently.

As far as the worry that one of you expressed about losing rights to the photos: if we did have a gallery we would make the rights policy very clear up front, as we do regarding all other content submitted to us. At this point we haven't spent a lot of time considering what the policy for an online gallery would be, since we have decided against having one. It's also still the case that digital photos taken with consumer-quality cameras are almost never magazine-quality - the resolution isn't high enough, and the depth of field usually isn't there. In some cases we can use digitals at a fairly small size, but slides remain the best choice for layout photos.

Finally, while we've considered publishing a variety of products (including back issues) electronically, the economics just don't work for us at this time.

Thanks - and best wishes from all of us.

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Posted by MRTerry on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:28 AM

This is an interesting question, and one we've wrestled with for some time. On the plus side, we know that photos are popular (we enjoy looking at them also), they're a great source of modeling tips, and a gallery could help us as we search for layouts to showcase and potential authors. On the minus side, they would slow the site down, and inappropriate content could be a problem. At this point we think the minuses outweigh the plusses, but we reconsider this question fairly frequently.

As far as the worry that one of you expressed about losing rights to the photos: if we did have a gallery we would make the rights policy very clear up front, as we do regarding all other content submitted to us. At this point we haven't spent a lot of time considering what the policy for an online gallery would be, since we have decided against having one. It's also still the case that digital photos taken with consumer-quality cameras are almost never magazine-quality - the resolution isn't high enough, and the depth of field usually isn't there. In some cases we can use digitals at a fairly small size, but slides remain the best choice for layout photos.

Finally, while we've considered publishing a variety of products (including back issues) electronically, the economics just don't work for us at this time.

Thanks - and best wishes from all of us.

Terry
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:28 PM
many sites such as this have photo galleries, but also have pictures next to your comments in the forum section...I think it would be especially neat here as you could have pictures of your fav Railroad company
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:28 PM
many sites such as this have photo galleries, but also have pictures next to your comments in the forum section...I think it would be especially neat here as you could have pictures of your fav Railroad company

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