skiloff wrote: CNJ831 wrote: donhalshanks wrote:Lets all get back to model railroading! It is possible to post a problem and a question on the new forum software. It is possible for someone with knowledge about the problem, to post a reply. It is possible to read all of the replys made to the original problem. The result is new knowledge to the frustrated modeler. Please, those with a lot of experience, don't leave because some of the bells and whistles aren't there yet. Stay a part of a great community to share our common needs. Hal Hal - It should not be up to the subscribers to wade through all the inadequecies of this new forum attempting to get it universally operable. I certainly don't blame Tom for leaving. It seems many others have as well. Not a word has been heard from Bergie, posts have dropped off big time (and note, almost no photo contributions this weekend too...think there are no wide problems?), and a lot of the real modelers are leaving, or already have left, this forum. In my book, it's time for the powers that be to wake up and deal with the situation. CNJ831 So most of the people posting aren't real modelers? What are you trying to say? Seems like a bit of an elitist comment to me.
CNJ831 wrote: donhalshanks wrote:Lets all get back to model railroading! It is possible to post a problem and a question on the new forum software. It is possible for someone with knowledge about the problem, to post a reply. It is possible to read all of the replys made to the original problem. The result is new knowledge to the frustrated modeler. Please, those with a lot of experience, don't leave because some of the bells and whistles aren't there yet. Stay a part of a great community to share our common needs. Hal Hal - It should not be up to the subscribers to wade through all the inadequecies of this new forum attempting to get it universally operable. I certainly don't blame Tom for leaving. It seems many others have as well. Not a word has been heard from Bergie, posts have dropped off big time (and note, almost no photo contributions this weekend too...think there are no wide problems?), and a lot of the real modelers are leaving, or already have left, this forum. In my book, it's time for the powers that be to wake up and deal with the situation. CNJ831
donhalshanks wrote:Lets all get back to model railroading! It is possible to post a problem and a question on the new forum software. It is possible for someone with knowledge about the problem, to post a reply. It is possible to read all of the replys made to the original problem. The result is new knowledge to the frustrated modeler. Please, those with a lot of experience, don't leave because some of the bells and whistles aren't there yet. Stay a part of a great community to share our common needs. Hal
Hal - It should not be up to the subscribers to wade through all the inadequecies of this new forum attempting to get it universally operable. I certainly don't blame Tom for leaving. It seems many others have as well. Not a word has been heard from Bergie, posts have dropped off big time (and note, almost no photo contributions this weekend too...think there are no wide problems?), and a lot of the real modelers are leaving, or already have left, this forum. In my book, it's time for the powers that be to wake up and deal with the situation.
CNJ831
So most of the people posting aren't real modelers? What are you trying to say? Seems like a bit of an elitist comment to me.
What's the big deal with pictures? Am I just lucky with the below?
Disclaimer: I'm not a real modeler, I just wanted to get an idea what a Spectrum USRA light 4-8-2 might look like if it were given some SP style details. The locomotive has not been worked on since the photo was taken.
The only complaint I have with the forum is the time it takes to do a quote of somebody's previous post.
Andre
skiloff wrote: river_eagle wrote: Pathfinder wrote: skiloff wrote:Looks good at the office, river. But IE7 is a beta, right? There are a whole lot of bugs in IE7 and that could very well be your problem. What service pack are you running with XP? Lots of talk about photo posting in the couple of threads specific to that topic, and IE 7 has been ID'd as an issue, probably due to the higher security measures. When going with anything beta, there is always a risk. Load up Firefox or one of the other browsers at home and see what happens. XP Service Pack 2 completly up to date, this is the only forum site {or any site for that matter}that has given me any trouble , and only since the switch last month. But you are using IE7 and all its bugs. I'd bet IE6 or Firefox would give you no problems.
river_eagle wrote: Pathfinder wrote: skiloff wrote:Looks good at the office, river. But IE7 is a beta, right? There are a whole lot of bugs in IE7 and that could very well be your problem. What service pack are you running with XP? Lots of talk about photo posting in the couple of threads specific to that topic, and IE 7 has been ID'd as an issue, probably due to the higher security measures. When going with anything beta, there is always a risk. Load up Firefox or one of the other browsers at home and see what happens. XP Service Pack 2 completly up to date, this is the only forum site {or any site for that matter}that has given me any trouble , and only since the switch last month.
Pathfinder wrote: skiloff wrote:Looks good at the office, river. But IE7 is a beta, right? There are a whole lot of bugs in IE7 and that could very well be your problem. What service pack are you running with XP? Lots of talk about photo posting in the couple of threads specific to that topic, and IE 7 has been ID'd as an issue, probably due to the higher security measures. When going with anything beta, there is always a risk. Load up Firefox or one of the other browsers at home and see what happens.
skiloff wrote:Looks good at the office, river. But IE7 is a beta, right? There are a whole lot of bugs in IE7 and that could very well be your problem. What service pack are you running with XP?
Lots of talk about photo posting in the couple of threads specific to that topic, and IE 7 has been ID'd as an issue, probably due to the higher security measures. When going with anything beta, there is always a risk. Load up Firefox or one of the other browsers at home and see what happens.
XP Service Pack 2 completly up to date, this is the only forum site {or any site for that matter}that has given me any trouble , and only since the switch last month.
But you are using IE7 and all its bugs. I'd bet IE6 or Firefox would give you no problems.
I can't seem to post pictures using XP and IE 6. Previously, all I needed were the bracket IMG prefix and suffix and my image URL from railimages. Something has changed.
river_eagle wrote: one last try, my home unit, wiith XP and IE 7, won't work, so I am now at work trying with 98 and IE 5, so here goes.
one last try, my home unit, wiith XP and IE 7, won't work, so I am now at work trying with 98 and IE 5, so here goes.
so that works, must be a conflict with IE 7, maybe in security, or cookies?
I have only posted twice since the new forum opened... it's only because I am sort of in limbo with my modeling right now and haven't had much to add. I do come on at least once a day and check in and see what everyone is doing. And a lot of you are doing a lot of complaining about the new format. I haven't tried posting pictures yet (except in my sig), so I'm going to try one now:Okay... no paste option when I right click. It's as if the browser doesn't know that I am in a text field. Normally, any time that a cursor is in a text field box the paste option should be available. This is a major inconvenience. I don't mind typing the IMG tags, but to have to type the entire photo url is pretty silly in the computer age! That is a VERY basic command and it is there for a reason. Without the option to paste into our replies, we are taking a step backwards. Computers run the world these days and this forum doesn't let one paste? Wow!That was with Netscape 7.0. I am now going to switch to IE and see if I can paste using that browser.Dave
EDIT:
Okay... It's a Netscape thing. I have the paste option with IE. Here's the picture(I hope)
Seems to work. I guess that Netscape isn't completely supported in the new forum software. Bummer, because I prefer Netscape. Dave
Well I am another that has virtually stopped using the forum. I have been in the MRR doldrums for a while anyway and just have not clicked with the new forum. My big complaint with the old forum was the terrible search engine. If anything I think the search is worse on this one. This forum is also more impersonal. I liked the ability to see who else was reading the same threads. I have not tried the picture posting so here goes
Well, it seems that posting images is not an issue. I use picturetrail and just took the forum link URL provided and it evidently works fine. I'm not going to leave, I just hope I get motivated with the MRR again and get more active.
Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum
I'm a pretty level-headed guy and I've got a lot of patience (I have to, I'm a high-school music teacher, LOL!).
Tom, Your problem is that the high school you teach at probably marches corps style with your high school marching band. You corps guys are all close minded and don't accept change well. You need to sit down, loosen up and watch the movie, "Drum Line" and learn how a real marching band puts on a show. That corps stuff is boring! (All the model railroaders just went huh?!?!?!? What is this guy talking about - it's a band director thing.)
Railphotog wrote: "Everyone is out of step except me!" "So I'm leaving!" he says. Seems to work for hundreds of others, photos and all. Maybe, just maybe, you're not doing something right? Are you using a MAC? Bob Boudreau
"Everyone is out of step except me!" "So I'm leaving!" he says. Seems to work for hundreds of others, photos and all. Maybe, just maybe, you're not doing something right? Are you using a MAC?
Bob Boudreau
Bob, it's not like that. I'm a pretty level-headed guy and I've got a lot of patience (I have to, I'm a high-school music teacher, LOL!). And I'm approaching the forum just like I did the old forum, which INCLUDES using the same forumula for posting photos that I've always used and have been told by other members is still supposed to work. Now I know that most of the fellows on here use PhotoBucket, and I use PictureTrail. I have no idea if that makes any difference, but it just doesn't work for me.
Now I'm not leaving just because I can't post my photos--that would be childish, and make me a perfect example of your quote--which I think you know from our postings over the years, I'm most definitely not. I'm simply leaving because the new Forum is just too tricky and complex for my non-computer mind to handle. And no, I don't have a Mac (I understand some Mac users are having quite a bit of difficulty with the forum, also), I've got my same old PC. I have a feeling that MR bought this software package without really testing it out. The same thing happened at my high school for a grading program--it was bought untested because it was a good bargain. The teachers ended up having to hand-write their grades at the end of the semester and turning them into Administration because the program had this little tiny glitch--It couldn't SEND. And nobody could fix it. So several thousands of dollars later and one dead program, we got one that works--to a degree. Glitches happen. But even though I'm patient, I only have so MUCH patience. And then I just have to throw my hands up and say "Oh, Well."
Tom
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
marknewton wrote:Bob Boudreau wrote: ""Everyone is out of step except me!" "So I'm leaving!" he says. Seems to work for hundreds of others, photos and all. Maybe, just maybe, you're not doing something right?" He's not the only one. I'm having exactly the same problems as Tom described. "Are you using a MAC?" Don't know about Tom, but I am. So what? Mark.
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
river_eagle wrote:pathfinder.....this is what happens if i reply with quote or try to post a pic, it's more than a how to it's a what wrong!!!!...................................................................................................................................................................................................... Pathfinder wrote: jwar wrote: Perhaps some savy guy could start a good thread.on posting pics, Then burgie could slap a stickey on it...JohnLike this one?: http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/854434/ShowPost.aspxor this one?:http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/859883/ShowPost.aspxIt has been suggested that this be as sticky but it has not happened. Does Bergie even look at these?.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................It's very frustrating, see what happens to your post if I reply with quotes. all the hyperlinks are broken yors or mine.
Pathfinder wrote: jwar wrote: Perhaps some savy guy could start a good thread.on posting pics, Then burgie could slap a stickey on it...JohnLike this one?: http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/854434/ShowPost.aspxor this one?:http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/859883/ShowPost.aspxIt has been suggested that this be as sticky but it has not happened. Does Bergie even look at these?
jwar wrote: Perhaps some savy guy could start a good thread.on posting pics, Then burgie could slap a stickey on it...John
Perhaps some savy guy could start a good thread.on posting pics, Then burgie could slap a stickey on it...John
Some people never listen. I told you a couple days before the old forum shut down to lay in a supply of CHEESE!
So here we are... too much WhINE too little cheese.
I think that in Tom's post you are seeing the feelings of many older, longtime hobbyists, those not intimately familiar with computers and new forum systems...just like myself. As I alluded to in another thread, I whole heartedly believe that the dramatic drop in postings since the forum change over (as well as in forum subscriber numbers) are the result of older hobbyists - the guys who are not computer geeks but really know their modeling - throwing up their hands in frustration and walking away and not to any degree just the usual summer slump. I don't expect to see the situation change come September...in fact, it may decline further as the kiddies go back to school.
More and more, this is becoming a forum composed almost exclusively of newbies, most of the experienced modelers having packed their bags and moved on. The old forum was reasonably servicable and far simpler for most of us non-computer types to get around. Like Tom, I find the new forum a distinct step backwards, in every way.
Don't leave Tom, I never would have built the bridge or the canyon without your encouragement. You have done the same for others.
I do wish you could get your pics posted, that is a big part of the fun.
As for the wrangeling, I am trying to learn to live with that, but I was disappointed that over 1/2 the posts on the huge bridge pic posting had nothing to do with pics of bridges. I do hope you can get a few of your great bridges to show.
Thanks again for last year.
Mr. White, please allow me to add my to the fray. I had some problems with the new forum, as well. But, I realize that with anything new comes glitches and the learning curve. We were all comfortable with the old forum, and change takes us out of our comfort zone. I would ask you to give it a little time If not, that's your prerogative, and as you can see, you WILL be missed.
Marlon
See pictures of the Clinton-Golden Valley RR
The main problem with the new forum is the loss of tool bars and the ability to paste in images, and the quirky faults at login. Other than that, sure it works a bit different from the older one, but this is just *different* not necessarily worse.
For those who say they can post images using the [*img] ... [/img] tags I say good luck to you, but it doesn't work for me (and NO I don't use a Mac, but that shouldn't matter either). Its a fault and it needs to be fixed, but I wouldn't stop posting over it.