So, we have another garden railway featured in MR. Why?
There is a Kalmbach publication strictly for garden railways so why take up space in MR, which already lacks the "meaty" articles of years gone by, when it could have been published in the magazine created just for garden railways?
Do they feature non-garden railways in the garden railway magazine.
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Roger T.
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Well, let's see....
"Garden Railways." Specific subculture of model railroading.
"Model Railroader." Generic; encompasses all aspects of model railroading, including various subcultures.
Non-garden layout does not fit the Garden Railways subculture. Garden layout DOES fit the Model Railroader mix.
Idea!! If you don't like garden railroading, don't read articles about it, even in Model Railroader.
Mark P.
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I'm subscribing to MR for scale rr'ing of the INDOOR variety. I don't want to pay for content that could be better
handled by another magazine.
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Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
rogertra wrote: Do they feature non-garden railways in the garden railway magazine.
Probably not.
Have fun with your trains
vsmith wrote:Yes, they've done a few in the last few years in GR, indoor layouts have been featured in GR. In fact theres an indoor layout in the current issue...They are either G or O and if someone has an HO or O layout outdoors I'm sure they would like to put it in the magazine too. I didnt know Model Railroading was exclusive to HO or N, maybe the mag should be changed to "HO or N Only Model Railroader" ???
To my way of thinking the magazines name is "Model Railroader" there is no scale specifics, personally I like to see others acheivements, in other scales or even outdoors, if I had the real-estate, the money, the time...... then I'd like to dabble in the garden stuff. Its interesting to see what else is available to us and to give us insight into other options. Plus I am sure there are MANY multi scalers with a layout out back and one in the basement. As has been stated above, many ideas are scale irrelevant so showing the variances in scale does not detract from the modeling, if you dont like it turn the page and dont read it, just like I do with all the ads and other fillers, but one day I may remember something I flipped past and it will have become relevant.
The magazine has a wide audience and I am sure if scale specific mags were profitable to Kalmbach we would have more of them, the largest audience with the minimal outlay is the target.... no you cant please ALL of the people ALL of the time, but I am sure they are pleasing MOST of the people MOST of the time, or they would have stopped doing what they do... and dont come back with dropping circulation figures, I'm sure they spend millions on market research and have a good idea of what sells.
Have fun, be safe and keep your mind open.
Karl.
James, Brisbane Australia
Modelling AT&SF in the 90s
I enjoy seeing every kind of model railroad in MR. If I was only interested in things in my scale or pertaining to my prototype I'd be in serious trouble:
The scale is 1:80 (on 16.5mm track, representing a 42 inch gauge prototype.) The prototype is Japan - the countryside, the infrastructure and the trains.
When was the last time you saw that in MR?
I did consider building an outdoor layout in HOj. 110 degree temperatures and unfiltered desert sunshine drove a stake through that idea's heart in a hurry. (Notice that I didn't say Garden Railroad. The only thing that's grown in my yard since I moved here is a concrete retaining wall.)
Chuck
vsmith wrote:I'm sure the logic is that if they DIDNT show the occasional Garden RR in MR that some model RRs might not ever consider coming outside into the sun with an outdoor RR and instead stay locked in thier basements until mushrooms began growing on them....
Amen Brother!
Actually, the garden railroad stuff occasionally cropping up catches the wife's eye, to the point where she is starting to ask about doing one in our yard.
Are we going to start arguing next that they should not do any articles about old trains because there is Classic Trains, or that they should strike down all mention of the prototype stuff because they have Trains, or maybe they should stop accepting and printing articles about buildings and structures because there is Fine Scale Modeller for all that stuff and it is detracting from the "real" model trains.
A little variety is okay people.
Ryan BoudreauxThe Piedmont Division Modeling The Southern Railway, Norfolk & Western & Norfolk Southern in HO during the merger eraCajun Chef Ryan
Guess I was out voted and it seems that the occasional garden railway article in MR is indeed welcome.
Ah well, you live and learn.
devils wrote: Does it cease to be a model railroad just because some of the scenery is real? I got into garden railways as a result of articles in a the British Railway Modeller magazine, my G scale locos are as well detailed if not better than my HO ones. It's about variety and seeing things you might not consider otherwise. There are lots of articles in Model Railroader that don't interest me particularly but they sometimes have an idea I can use. If we don't model a particular Railroad then an article on building a specific coach or loco isn't relevant either for me. I'm happy with the general content, one good article can make it an issue I'll keep and look at again and again. Buy a G scale loco sit it on the shelf and see how long it takes for the idea to build a layout to start! Oh and don't forget to keep buying the HO for when it's cold out there or raining.
I was sitting outside in a lawn chair reading MR when I came across that article. I thought it showed a lot of skill and effort on the part of the builders, and IMHO it was one of the best articles in the issue. Having found rocks in my wife-packed suitcase when I've returned from vacation, I realized that crossing state lines to pick up a stone with a specific mineral content is something only a gardener would do.
Up here in the frozen north (where, incidentally, it's now 97 degrees) there are very few garden railways, so I've never actually seen a real outdoor one. It's a treat to have MR show me something I'm not likely to otherwise ever get a chance to look at.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Someone made the comment that because garden railways already have "their own" publication MR shouldn't tie up valuable pages covering them. I guess then:
No S gauge models.
No O gauge models.
No N gauge models.
No narrow gauge/short line models.
No prototype info.
No articles on model railroad planning.
No articles on "Great" model railroads.
I guess there's always ads for HO stuff to fill out the pages . . .
KL