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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:08 PM
Why do people react so strongly when something different is published. Would you like to eat chicken every night for the rest of your life - I thought not! We like variety in our foods, or at least most of us do, and so we should enjoy the differences as well as the similiarities in layout design and presentation.

For those of us not into the steam/diesel transition period, do you know how many layouts we have to look at in MR and other mags of the transition period? Malcom has done something different and he has done it well. Judged artistically and creatively, he gets an "A". It may not be your favourite style, but so what. What I don't get, and never do, is the anger when some one does something different.

Why the anger? I don't get it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM
There is already a forum catering heavily to the rivet counters, grinches, and assorted malcontents, whose main contribution to the hobby is to make nasty comments about what they don't like in other peoples' modeling........it's the Atlas forum.
There's no need for this forum to become like that one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM
There is already a forum catering heavily to the rivet counters, grinches, and assorted malcontents, whose main contribution to the hobby is to make nasty comments about what they don't like in other peoples' modeling........it's the Atlas forum.
There's no need for this forum to become like that one.
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Posted by MAbruce on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by david77

This layout is silly. I know everyone has their own tastes but I prefer the more serious protype.


Wow, what a way to start out on this forum! [:0]

That layout was not exactly what I would do, but I have to admit that it was very well crafted.

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Posted by MAbruce on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by david77

This layout is silly. I know everyone has their own tastes but I prefer the more serious protype.


Wow, what a way to start out on this forum! [:0]

That layout was not exactly what I would do, but I have to admit that it was very well crafted.

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:34 AM
As I said in my earlier post, its the rivit counters with no sense of humor that ruin this hobby.

So what if its a flight of whimsy, There is MORE and BETTER detailing in this one finished section than in a whole heck of a lot of layouts I've seen published. What scare me is how good will the rest of the layout be when its finished. I really think theres alot of bashing of this layout out of pure spite and envy and jealousy. Most modelers would kill for Furlow's skills and imagination but too conservative to really go out on a limb for something they like. Furlow's discovered the true freedom that this hobby affords, if it didnt ever exist in reality, who cares? it can in your mind and you can model it.

Again, Lighten up before your arteries harden.

P.S. The photos in the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette were FAR better quality than MR.

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:34 AM
As I said in my earlier post, its the rivit counters with no sense of humor that ruin this hobby.

So what if its a flight of whimsy, There is MORE and BETTER detailing in this one finished section than in a whole heck of a lot of layouts I've seen published. What scare me is how good will the rest of the layout be when its finished. I really think theres alot of bashing of this layout out of pure spite and envy and jealousy. Most modelers would kill for Furlow's skills and imagination but too conservative to really go out on a limb for something they like. Furlow's discovered the true freedom that this hobby affords, if it didnt ever exist in reality, who cares? it can in your mind and you can model it.

Again, Lighten up before your arteries harden.

P.S. The photos in the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette were FAR better quality than MR.

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Posted by CNJ831 on Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:37 AM
Mike posts -
"Many, many years ago, MR did a feature on a 'space-age' moon surface railroad, with futuristic equipment...just for fun."

The MR moon layout was intentionally an April Fool's issue article. Perhaps Furlow's piece should have been similarly positioned.

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Posted by CNJ831 on Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:37 AM
Mike posts -
"Many, many years ago, MR did a feature on a 'space-age' moon surface railroad, with futuristic equipment...just for fun."

The MR moon layout was intentionally an April Fool's issue article. Perhaps Furlow's piece should have been similarly positioned.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:28 AM
The Furlow G layout is whimsical, but well done. I kind of liked it. It's not the first whimsical layout featured in MR by any means.
Not that long ago, Northlandz was featured, with mixed responses from readers.Interesting? Yes it was, at least to me, even with its' separate loops of track and impossible bridges.

Just this year, the new Chicago Museum layout was featured...that enormous steel bridge in the foldout would never have been built by any railroad in such a location, so it was just there for the sheer fun of having it, so it is really whimsy.

Many think (especially recently ), that John Allen's masterpiece G & D was a caricature...I think it was the most inspirational layout in history.

Many ,many years ago, MR did a feature on a "space-age" moon surface railroad, with futuristic equipment....just for fun.

Fun is ok. Really.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:28 AM
The Furlow G layout is whimsical, but well done. I kind of liked it. It's not the first whimsical layout featured in MR by any means.
Not that long ago, Northlandz was featured, with mixed responses from readers.Interesting? Yes it was, at least to me, even with its' separate loops of track and impossible bridges.

Just this year, the new Chicago Museum layout was featured...that enormous steel bridge in the foldout would never have been built by any railroad in such a location, so it was just there for the sheer fun of having it, so it is really whimsy.

Many think (especially recently ), that John Allen's masterpiece G & D was a caricature...I think it was the most inspirational layout in history.

Many ,many years ago, MR did a feature on a "space-age" moon surface railroad, with futuristic equipment....just for fun.

Fun is ok. Really.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:44 PM
I'm very impressed with the 3-D sculpture Malcolm did. I guess you have to have some fun now and then but for that 'mode'l to garner several pages in a well respected source of modeling is well, using the pages of that magazine to pay off a bet or 'someting'.

Malcolm is a very well respected Modeler and I think he was just having some fun. I would have enjoyed it more had it appeared in the April issue.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:44 PM
I'm very impressed with the 3-D sculpture Malcolm did. I guess you have to have some fun now and then but for that 'mode'l to garner several pages in a well respected source of modeling is well, using the pages of that magazine to pay off a bet or 'someting'.

Malcolm is a very well respected Modeler and I think he was just having some fun. I would have enjoyed it more had it appeared in the April issue.
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Posted by douginut on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:41 PM
In the spirit of Work Dinos,
Caudate people.
and dragons in tunnels with glowing eyes.

Where have I read, "Model Railroading is FUN!"
To look at this layout is to smile,
but even a circle of track on the carpet is to smile...

Doug, in Utah
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Posted by douginut on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:41 PM
In the spirit of Work Dinos,
Caudate people.
and dragons in tunnels with glowing eyes.

Where have I read, "Model Railroading is FUN!"
To look at this layout is to smile,
but even a circle of track on the carpet is to smile...

Doug, in Utah
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Posted by CNJ831 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:44 PM
In all fairness to David77's opinion, I have to say that this is the one and only website of the many I visit that has elicited supportive posts for Malcolm Furlow's latest layout article. Elsewhere comments seem to be running about 90% against the need for it to have appearred in a mainstream modeling magazine, rather than some publication like A.W.N.U.T.S., which is far more tongue-in-cheek. Admittedly, it is the closest thing to pure fantasy to appear in the pages of my 60 year collection of MR magazine.

I note that a similar article on this very same layout was presented in one of the more serious model railroading magazines (I think it was the Shortline & Narrow Guage Gazette) just a month or two ago and commentary by their subscribers was pretty much just short of hoots and cat-calls!

Without question, Furlow is an outstanding modeler and we each have the right to model in any fashion we so choose. However, I think that most readers of MR and the other model railroading magazines purchase them to glean ideas for their own layouts. I fully enjoyed Furlow's articles on the San Jaun Central, the Carbondale Central, and some others, finding them very useful, but this latest layout is so Disneyesque and outside the mainstream of model railroading that personally I found nothing of value in it.

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Posted by CNJ831 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:44 PM
In all fairness to David77's opinion, I have to say that this is the one and only website of the many I visit that has elicited supportive posts for Malcolm Furlow's latest layout article. Elsewhere comments seem to be running about 90% against the need for it to have appearred in a mainstream modeling magazine, rather than some publication like A.W.N.U.T.S., which is far more tongue-in-cheek. Admittedly, it is the closest thing to pure fantasy to appear in the pages of my 60 year collection of MR magazine.

I note that a similar article on this very same layout was presented in one of the more serious model railroading magazines (I think it was the Shortline & Narrow Guage Gazette) just a month or two ago and commentary by their subscribers was pretty much just short of hoots and cat-calls!

Without question, Furlow is an outstanding modeler and we each have the right to model in any fashion we so choose. However, I think that most readers of MR and the other model railroading magazines purchase them to glean ideas for their own layouts. I fully enjoyed Furlow's articles on the San Jaun Central, the Carbondale Central, and some others, finding them very useful, but this latest layout is so Disneyesque and outside the mainstream of model railroading that personally I found nothing of value in it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:11 PM
Like a few of the others, I wasn't that impressed with the cartoon nature of the layout. However, I don't rule the world, so I think its great that someone expresses his artistic talent this way. I wish I had his talent, even if I would use it a different way in modelling.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:11 PM
Like a few of the others, I wasn't that impressed with the cartoon nature of the layout. However, I don't rule the world, so I think its great that someone expresses his artistic talent this way. I wish I had his talent, even if I would use it a different way in modelling.
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:09 PM
LOL = Laugh Out Loud

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:09 PM
LOL = Laugh Out Loud

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:11 PM
Dumb off topic question: am new to forums and have fun deciphering the many acronyms used. Some are easy to figure from context, such as BTW, IMHO, and BFD(!), but 2 postings above have used the acronym 'LOL' and there are 20 definitions in the online acronym listings. Have seen this one many times b4, could someone please explain what this stands for? Thanx
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:11 PM
Dumb off topic question: am new to forums and have fun deciphering the many acronyms used. Some are easy to figure from context, such as BTW, IMHO, and BFD(!), but 2 postings above have used the acronym 'LOL' and there are 20 definitions in the online acronym listings. Have seen this one many times b4, could someone please explain what this stands for? Thanx
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:50 PM
Yes, we each do what we like because it is FUN for us. And we do it for our own pleasure, not to satisfy the ideals of someone else. No matter what is modelled, this art takes a lot of time and effort and creativity and skill. And above all - it's YOUR railroad.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:50 PM
Yes, we each do what we like because it is FUN for us. And we do it for our own pleasure, not to satisfy the ideals of someone else. No matter what is modelled, this art takes a lot of time and effort and creativity and skill. And above all - it's YOUR railroad.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:09 PM
my very first layout was a 4*6 layout and it was a logging industy layout. Now there is no way that i could..."to scale" have put all the things in there that made the railroad fun without cutting some corners and realism. Though I would rather build something with more realism (I am working on a bigger space now to do so). I think it is wrong to down someone else on the creation they have created. This is already a hard enough hobby to keep people in. We dont need people at the gate screaming at people that they can only model 1 way...cause honestly there is no 1 way. There a thousands. So please..."dont say that anything is awful" Maybe you see something that could be improved apon and that may be true...but everyone has their own ideas. I will leave it at that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:09 PM
my very first layout was a 4*6 layout and it was a logging industy layout. Now there is no way that i could..."to scale" have put all the things in there that made the railroad fun without cutting some corners and realism. Though I would rather build something with more realism (I am working on a bigger space now to do so). I think it is wrong to down someone else on the creation they have created. This is already a hard enough hobby to keep people in. We dont need people at the gate screaming at people that they can only model 1 way...cause honestly there is no 1 way. There a thousands. So please..."dont say that anything is awful" Maybe you see something that could be improved apon and that may be true...but everyone has their own ideas. I will leave it at that.
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:02 PM
Hmmm... A Looney Tunes Themed Layout, that could be REAL interesting! Imagine the fun if Daffy Duck is in charge...LOL

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:02 PM
Hmmm... A Looney Tunes Themed Layout, that could be REAL interesting! Imagine the fun if Daffy Duck is in charge...LOL

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Posted by ironhorseman on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:44 PM
for vsmith: LOL

to each his own, is all i say. someone could build a looney tunes layout for all i care and i'd still enjoy it!

yad sdrawkcab s'ti

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