QUOTE: Originally posted by dingoix - don't waste money on cork roadbed unless the noise is a REAL problem. when i build my staging yard the track will be nailed to the plywood.(no cork)
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mike Rehling QUOTE: Originally posted by electrolove So let's say that I want hidden staging yards for Denver, Pueblo and Salt Lake City. How would you guys do that? Is it maybe possible to have only one hidden staging yard for all three places? I really like the idea of double ended staging yards. My double ended staging yards (with return loops) represent Points West, and Points East. I model a freelanced Class 1in the Tulsa Oklahoma area based on the actual BNSF prototype between Springfield MO and Dallas TX. I did not limit them to specific locations since I want to connect with the entire system my railroad serves as well as interchang/run through opportunities. For example, my Birmingham (AL)-Long Beach (CA) stack train, St. Louis (MO)-Tulsa (OK) Merchandise, and, Galesburg (IL)-Temple (TX) Merchandise trains all originate in East staging. They end up at West staging after turning around on the return loop. Then they are ready to go East again. So by defining the staging as East and West and not specific cities, I can have trains from/to points well beyond the limits of my layout or adjancent divisions. Hope that helps, Mike in Tulsa BNSF Cherokee Sub
QUOTE: Originally posted by electrolove So let's say that I want hidden staging yards for Denver, Pueblo and Salt Lake City. How would you guys do that? Is it maybe possible to have only one hidden staging yard for all three places? I really like the idea of double ended staging yards.
Lynn
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QUOTE: Originally posted by riverhill Tom B Off topic; have you got your BLI Austin & Tex Central RSD 15 yet?[:)]
Tom
QUOTE: Originally posted by pcarrell I wish I was that technically savy! If that's still as clear as mud maybe you could give me a brief crash course in how to steal your trackplan and modify it.
QUOTE: Originally posted by pcarrell 3 feet would indeed be tight. Disguising a track dropping into a hole in the middle of the yard would also be tough. Even thinking of a good scenic treatment is difficult. I wonder if you can move those points where the track decends. Could the point on the left be moved around towards the bottom left? How about moving the point on the top over to the bottom right? Both of these would ease the grades and the scenic treatments would be easier.
QUOTE: Originally posted by pcarrell Why not do both? Have it go to the underside on both and then connect in a big yard down there. Think pretzel.
QUOTE: Originally posted by electrolove I like your idea very much. The best part is when you talked about "westbound" and "eastbound", and when you said the following: 'That way it looks like the train came from somewhere, went somewhere else, then came back.' I like that.
QUOTE: Originally posted by pcarrell Why not do both? Have it go to the underside on both and then connect in a big yard down there. Think pretzel. The reason I suggest this is because then you can have true east-west type operations. Trains emerge "westbound" from one ramp, traverse the layout, then disappear down the other ramp. Down below the train pulls into it's storage track and it's already correctly positioned for the next "westbound" run. The train looks like it came from somewhere else, went through your part of the world, then went somewhere else, just like real trains do. Another idea is a reverse loop to reverse loop type setup. The two reverse loop's are both under the table, each connected to different ramps. Each of the reverse loops are set up as a through yard that folds back on itself, kind of like this; (this is just a VERY rough idea of what I'm talking about) If you set it up this way then you can run a train "westbound" and then hold it in the other loop for a bit, then send it back "eastbound". That way it looks like the train came from somewhere, went somewhere else, then came back. Just some thoughts.........
QUOTE: If I use a helix instead I can just make the hidden yard as a level and connect it to the helix. That seems like a good idea. What do you guys think? Is a helix a complicated thing to build?
QUOTE: Originally posted by electrolove I want to learn about staging yards. How many different types are there to begin with? I have heard words like 'double ended' and so on... Please tell me more about the different types and the pros and cons.
QUOTE: Originally posted by pcarrell QUOTE: Originally posted by wickman What would the minimum radius requirements be for a helix in HO or would that depend on how much room is available?[:)] Lynn How much room is available & what you intent to run on it.
QUOTE: Originally posted by wickman What would the minimum radius requirements be for a helix in HO or would that depend on how much room is available?[:)] Lynn