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Before and After
Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:47 PM
I'm trying to learn how to weather rolling stock so this is my first try. To me it's not bad, but won't win any blue ribbons.


I have a long way to go yet. I'd like to find a set of colored pens that will work on a plastic body that has been 'dulcoted'. The ones I have don't do that good of a job. I know paint would work but the pen is much easier to control. I've been studying the real cars and I've found they come in all conditions from a to z.. well, very few A's if any.
Anyway, let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions I'd like to hear them.
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Posted by Train 284 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:57 PM
I think that looks great for your first weathering project! Good job!
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Posted by grandeman on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:10 PM
Lookin good, Jerrell (the car, not you[:D]). There's much good info online about weathering but have you seen this? http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=69
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Posted by UP Deano on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:14 PM
i think that looks great for your first job! look at how your first pic LOOKS like plastic, and how after its weathered it looks so MUCH better. [;)] GOOD JOB! keep up the good work.[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:14 PM
I think it looks real good, what are your plans for the colored pens?
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Posted by BMRR on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:20 PM
Looks like a good job to me.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:37 PM
Wow, looks A-Okay to me. How'd you do it? Chalks, washes, what?

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:37 PM
Spray paint cans weren't very common during the ice reefer era. Neither was graffiti.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

Spray paint cans weren't very common during the ice reefer era. Neither was graffiti.

Dave H.

Looks like Dave beat me to it. I was just going to ask the same thing.
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Posted by tatans on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:49 PM
Superb job, you have mastered the most important part of weathering "moderation" some tend to over weather cars so they look like they should be in the scrap heap,,good work.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:57 PM
I think it looks great for a beginner, or a seasoned veteran. Great job, JaRRell.
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Posted by railroadyoshi on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:03 PM
What do you mean its not 1st class? It is fantastic. Great work, and would like to see more
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grande man

Lookin good, Jerrell (the car, not you[:D]). There's much good info online about weathering but have you seen this? http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=69


Wow! Pay dirt! Thanks man!
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by NOSPACEORECASHRR

I think it looks real good, what are your plans for the colored pens?
Bob


Bob, I was going to try and use them for grafitti and the like. I can control them better, I think.
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

Wow, looks A-Okay to me. How'd you do it? Chalks, washes, what?




A coat of Dulcote
Grafitti with pens
A bath of black chalk dust that I had sanded off the stick and applied with a brush
Another Dulcote
Spotty touches of reddish chalk
Rust colored paint on the couplers, running gear etc.
and that was about it, I think.
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

Spray paint cans weren't very common during the ice reefer era. Neither was graffiti.

Dave H.


Darn! Oh well... live and learn.
Thanks Dave.
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:14 PM
I appreciate the kind words. Maybe one day I'll get a lot better. I never thought I'd enjoy 'ruining' something to make it look better. I can see now it's an art form and it'll take a while to master it, if ever.
Thanks,
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Posted by selector on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:24 PM
Jarrell, I think you have the idea, and it shows in what I see. Especially, the trucks are looking good. As for the body, it is a new one that has been in a rain and dust storm. Now we need to see some streaking with some darker colours, or else another undercoat, a light one of light beige? Then, the dark dribbles to get the streaking, maybe with India Ink? Or Burnt Umber.

I'm glad you tackled it. It is like getting into a lake; you shrivel like only a man can, but it isn't half bad once you get wet. [:D]
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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

Jarrell, I think you have the idea, and it shows in what I see. Especially, the trucks are looking good. As for the body, it is a new one that has been in a rain and dust storm. Now we need to see some streaking with some darker colours, or else another undercoat, a light one of light beige? Then, the dark dribbles to get the streaking, maybe with India Ink? Or Burnt Umber.

I'm glad you tackled it. It is like getting into a lake; you shrivel like only a man can, but it isn't half bad once you get wet. [:D]

Lol... yep... Grande Man showed me a site devoted to weathering and I've been reading up on it and I immediately found some of my mistakes. I gotta get the streaking down, gotta get the rust looking like rust, gotta get away from the tooooo solid colors..
I'll be at this a long time. I only wish I'd gotten into this hobby decades ago.
I even saw Mouse over there. That guy really gets around!
Thanks for the tips Crandell
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Posted by grandeman on Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

Lol... yep... Grande Man showed me a site devoted to weathering



Jerrell, there's more than just the weathering section. You'll see many other friends there too. I'm ready to see a "virtual tour" of your RR!
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Posted by dave9999 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:13 PM
Jarrell,
Looking good, man. It's not over done like some I have seen on here. Some
people tend to just glob on the paint. When I get to the weathering stage in my
modeling, I will follow more along the lines of Aggro's work. He seems to get
the point across without destroying the model. He has recomended Bragdon[sp?]
Enterprises chalks. They seem to create the effects of weather nicely.

Keep up the good work and keep posting pics... I need them for motivation!! [:P] Dave
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Posted by tstage on Friday, October 28, 2005 12:25 AM
Jarrell,

Hey, I think it looks terrific for a first time! [^] [tup] Did you use an airbrush or spray can to weather your boxcar? Try using a wash sometime. They aren't too difficult to make and are easy to apply. Many light coats are better than fewer heavy ones.

One technique I've found helpful. If you use a tiny brush, you can apply a small "drop" of wash so that it runs down along a vertical edge or row of rivots, that really enhances the detail of it.

Keep up the good work, Jarrell! I'm pretty much a novice and still learning about all this weather myself.

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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, October 28, 2005 2:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12
I have a long way to go yet. I'd like to find a set of colored pens that will work on a plastic body that has been 'dulcoted'. The ones I have don't do that good of a job. I know paint would work but the pen is much easier to control.


Me neither. I've bought 2 different brands of gel pens hoping they could create good graffiti. No dice. So I've been using diluted acrylic paints applied with a tiny fine point brush.
Seth Puffer has had some sucess with Pentel gel pens. But when I use them, the ink don't want to come out right!

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Posted by loathar on Friday, October 28, 2005 2:44 AM
I was going to ding you on the car being the wrong era for graffetti. (got beat to that)
Also, the graffetti should be parrellel to the track that the worthless rodent was standing on when he defaced an expensive paint job.(I dought they use ladders).
The actual weathering looks great.

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