Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon Mantua used to make a kit for a 4-8-0. Occasionally you can find one on Ebay. Currently, there are 3 for sale. Who knows? Maybe Model Power will re-release the engine. Andre
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman As far as I can tell, a switch engine from any time prior to WW1 (other than the out of production Mantua camelbacks) has never been made. Never.
QUOTE: Why have manufacturers abandoned anybody modeling before WW1? It seems unless you are narrow gauge, the model railroad suppliers think railroads were invented in 1945. The first 75 years of railroad history is completely ignored.
QUOTE: How many manufacturers make a reasonable quality (at least as good as an Accurail or Athearn) pre WW1 car in R-T-R or plastic kit? One, MDC and then only 2 or 3 body styles. Westerfield and LaBelle offer craftsman kits that can be used for post 1900 layout.
QUOTE: How many manufactures make a good running 1890-1910 era engine? One. The IHC NYO&W camelback 2-6-0, about as obscure a choice for an engine as can be had.
QUOTE: Think about it. F units were only in production from 1939 to about 1959. 20 years. And we have literally dozens upon dozens of variations of F units from every concievable manufacturer. Yet an entire nation's production for 75 years is more or less ignored. We have at least 5 versions of USRA 2-8-2's, two or three versions of USRA 4-6-2's.
QUOTE: Only one manufacturer makes a decent 2-8-0 and that, along with the 4-4-0, were the most common engines ever built.
QUOTE: Instead we have models of 4-6-6-4's, streamlined 4-8-4's, etc. All of which were only every used on maybe 5% of the US railroad system by a handfull of railroads. The entire, all time production of those engines probably wouldn't equal one month's production of 4-4-0's, 4-6-0's and 2-8-0's in late 1800's.
QUOTE: As far as I can tell, a switch engine from any time prior to WW1 (other than the out of production Mantua camelbacks) has never been made. Never.
QUOTE: Its like as if model airplane manufacturers decided that they would just never make another biplane or ship model makers decided that they would never make another sailing ship.
QUOTE: The sad thing is it offeres so many advantages. Cars and locomotives were smaller (30, 34 and 36 ft were most common), trains were shorter (a 40 car train was huge) and speed were slower (25 mph was tops for a freight in most places, passenger trains went 45-60). All the things that HELP make a small layout seem bigger.
QUOTE: I think that the manufacturers are missing a huge opportunity here.
QUOTE: I don't buy that. Steam engines stopped operating generally about 1956. Assuming "adulthood" means 18, that would mean that only 65+ year olds liked steam engines. There have been a dozen new steam models released in the last couple years, the manufacturers seem to think they have a market there.
QUOTE: Probably 50% of modelers NEVER saw a F unit in regular freight service. But there are a gazillion F units out there.
QUOTE: Talk about your niche markets. Except for the 2-10-4, NONE of those chassis are useable under another design boiler shell, they were all unique wheel arrangements used just once. Yet those were all considered to be valid "business cases". Making a good quality small 2-8-0 that was used by virtually every railroad in the US for decades is a bad business case? That's like saying it would be a bad bet to make a GP-7.
QUOTE: Think about that, 1865 to 1918. 53 years. That's like the model manufacturers skipped every single engine between the FT and the SD70.
QUOTE: Late 19th century and turn-of-the-century locomotives were physically quite small and even today it's difficult to produce a really good running example of these engines in HO scale because of the necessary small size of the motor/flywheel.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman Instead we have models of 4-6-6-4's, streamlined 4-8-4's, etc. All of which were only every used on maybe 5% of the US railroad system by a handfull of railroads.... I think that the manufacturers are missing a huge opportunity here. Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman Why have manufacturers abandoned anybody modeling before WW1?
QUOTE: How many manufacturers make a reasonable quality (at least as good as an Accurail or Athearn) pre WW1 car in R-T-R or plastic kit?
QUOTE: Westerfield and LaBelle offer craftsman kits that can be used for post 1900 layout.
QUOTE: How many manufactures make a good running 1890-1910 era engine? One. The IHC NYO&W camelback 2-6-0
Ray Breyer
Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943
QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon not to mention Don Ball's 1899 era Moraga Springs Northern - http://home.jps.net/~dlball/msn/ ).
QUOTE: Originally posted by FundyNorthern Just received in the mail today a flyer from B.T.S., and it includes three resin kits for the United States Military Railroad from the 1860's. One boxcar, two different flat cars. ww.btsrr.com Bob Boudreau