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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

I have no doubt drugs are involved.


How long can they have a supply of their drug of choice, I mean our relief people can't get around, how is the user going to get his drug supply renewed? Though I am sure the pharmacies are well cleaned out now.
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Posted by grandeman on Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman


I didn't hear that one [V], I did hear that FEMA and maybe the Red Cross pulled out of some areas because of shooting, I think it had something to do with food deliveries, I mean what is wrong with some of these people, I understand the desperation, but I think some have crossed over to the dark side, this almost sounds like "BlackHawk Down" in the beginning of the movie, or worse yet, some really bad scary movie... It's only a matter of time and we will be hearing about Nat. Guard units getting into some scrapes, and if these are any of the returning Iraq troops, I feel sorry for the looters [:D]

Sorry for digressing, just amazes me when people are in a bad spot how some will take advantage of the situation.


I truly feel for the folks who heeded the warnings and left but now have no homes/jobs/etc. Same for those that couldn't leave such as the sick and elderly. My thoughts and prayers go out for them. As for the dregs of society that are left, shooting at the rescuers, looting merchandise and whipping each other into a frenzy with their victim mentality, they should be left on their own. They make me sick.
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Posted by grandeman on Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:04 PM
Guys, just a a side note, it pays to be prepared. You don't have to be a "survivalist freak" to have a portable water filter, some MREs, a radio, extra clothes, etc. In today's world, it would be smart to have some preps in advance. Also, a way to defend your family from predators would seem to be in order as well. Just a thought.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grande man

Guys, just a a side note, it pays to be prepared. You don't have to be a "survivalist freak" to have a portable water filter, some MREs, a radio, extra clothes, etc. In today's world, it would be smart to have some preps in advance. Also, a way to defend your family from predators would seem to be in order as well. Just a thought.


I agree, AND A VERY GOOD POINT. I think this weekend the girlfriend and I need to sit down and make aemergency pack and be prepared. I can see a new industry springing up from this, sort of like the H-bomb days.
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Posted by grandeman on Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman


I agree, AND A VERY GOOD POINT. I think this weekend the girlfriend and I need to sit down and make aemergency pack and be prepared. I can see a new industry springing up from this, sort of like the H-bomb days.


Hi David. I'm certainly no expert, but if you need any help I have spent a few bucks in this area...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:40 PM
With Andrew back in 1992, they actually brought up the possibility of barracading the area off and not letting anyone back in it for a long period of time. Probably hypothetical, but it seems like a good idea, if at all possible, for this situation. Dead bodies, animals, and chemicals in the water, or should I say sewage, really don't help. 80% of the city. Seems unreal to me, and people are actually setting fire to the buildings in the French Quarter! Burns me up. [V][censored]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

With Andrew back in 1992, they actually brought up the possibility of barracading the area off and not letting anyone back in it for a long period of time. Probably hypothetical, but it seems like a good idea, if at all possible, for this situation. Dead bodies, animals, and chemicals in the water, or should I say sewage, really don't help. 80% of the city. Seems unreal to me, and people are actually setting fire to the buildings in the French Quarter! Burns me up. [V][censored]

uspscsx


Grande Man, I will pop you an email in a bit.

As for the burning, I wondered when this would start. It must almost feel like Armegedeon/End of Times down there to some folks. [V][V][V]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:04 PM
"No country is more than three meals from a revolution" I don't remember who said that but I think New Orleans has missed three meals. People have to eat, they have to have shelter from the elements.

If I was trapped down there with my kids (16 & 12) or my step grand kids (5 & 6) we would be coming out and a 12 guage pump might be very handy. I doubt any parents out there could honestly say any different.

Sure stealing water soaked electronics when the power is out for good is stupid but the simple fact is things are getting desperate there. On CNN you can see helicopter after helicopter dropping tiny sacks of sand into the huge breach of the levy but the refugees at the Convention Center are scrounging the neighborhood for bottled water and snacks.

At least I am sure the government will spare no expense to get the refineries operating.
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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:08 PM
As I said on another forum, it's one thing if they are stealing food for their families, but taking stuff just to take advantage of the situatuion is wrong. And there is no reason for the heavily armed gangs endangering desperate innocent people and those trying to help them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 8:28 PM
Something tells me our forum buddy Todd Templeton is all right. He is in Orange Beach, AL. He has just listed items on eBay, and, unless they were scheduled to come on at this time, he has power, or a really good laptop with a good battery. But it's obvious that he has internet. Todd, you out there?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:14 PM
I'm lost with it. If it was my family there, and we were all in good health with no injuries, we'd be walking and swimming out. I don't understand some of the attitudes. Especially the shooting at the rescurers. They need to find who was doing that, and just blast them. Either that, or just leave them behind.
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Posted by cjcrescent on Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:54 PM
Random thoughts on the situation;

CNN & Fox news have both announced that the guvmint, (southern pronounciation of government), is sending in 8 SEAL teams to assist in water rescues. I've never known of a SEAL unit going into anything unarmed. It will be interesting to see what develops if some of these thugs try to take a bead on one of these Teams.

But I can understand the frustration of many of the people there. Although there was a mandatory evacuation order to leave prior to the storm. If you have no car, no money, how do you leave? Walk? My wife and I lived in Mobile, Al. in 1979 when Hurricane Frederic hit. Mid Sept., high humidity, hot as hell, and my wife was 7 months pregnant. After Frederic it was four days before we had access to any ice or water. What ice we had, melted and the water was gone. You don't realize how much you need to drink in those conditions. Even with dry ice in the freezer, the food was beginning to go bad. Plus we didn't have to deal with any flooding but there was a great amount of damage in my neighborhood at the time, and gas was totally unavailable. I remember that I felt more stressed out then than at any other time I can think of.

I remember that after Hurricane Andrew that FEMA was criticized for its initial slow response, same as what is now happening in NO. Homestead and other devastated areas almost went thru what NO is going thru now. I remember seeing a story on the History Channel program, "The Wrath of God", about Andrew and one of the segments showed home and business owners in front of their properties with shotguns and rifles warding off looters and roving gangs. In one scene there was a ten year old armed with a shotgun guarding whats left of his home while his dad was out guarding his store.

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Posted by rexhea on Friday, September 2, 2005 1:47 AM
The people with the guns that are shooting are not the refugees that are hurting, frustrated, and even angry. Instead, they are the worthless slime of our society that continue to live off of the fear of others with impunity.
These gangs that are armed and terrorizing New Orleans are the same type of gangs that exist in every major city. Just imagine what would happen in New York, Miami, Detroit, Los Angeles, and others if all of a sudden there were no police to stop them from doing what they wanted.
I really liked what the La. Governor said about the first La. NG unit to go in, that they have just returned from Iraq and they are locked and loaded and they know and will do what is necessary to stop the gangs." Judging from that, I would say the gangs are short lived...literally. It's about time someone put a firm gripe on the situation. I think I will send the Guard a box of ammo.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 2, 2005 2:58 AM
My best wishes to all the emergency services. They are saying that 70 have already died of drug withdrawals. That would explain some weird behavior. If a disaster like that where to happen in Australia, we wouldn't even have the troops here to help. Reminds me of the Tsunami
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 2, 2005 5:11 PM
Bump.

More fire, more chaos, suicides, and filth. I just don't see any hope, no matter how much money is pumped into it.

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