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WALTHERS PASSENGER CARS

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WALTHERS PASSENGER CARS
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:58 PM
Last year I got a Kato Budd business car and think that it is the best looking car that you can get for the money. I have a fleet of Rivarossi corrugated passenger cars that they made for IHC. The wheels need to be replace after 25 years and many miles on them. So I got a Walthers' 10-6 car to replace on of the cars. I was not happy with it. If it was not for the inside and wheels of the Walthers car the Rivarossi car still looks good to me and I am just going to buy the wheels for the car and save alot of money
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:59 PM
Youre right the kato business cars are absolutly awesome!!! Best passenger car i have seen
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Posted by RedGrey62 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:42 PM
The Kato business car rocks. I wanted the Burlington but the first runsold out before I could get my hands on one. Thank goodness for Kato's second run. I have the Walthers diner, it will be put oneBay or a gartage sale soon since I am anxiously awaiting the BLI cars.

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Posted by jimrice4449 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:53 PM
And here's another shot at Walthers. The new lightwieght cars are 6 inches (scale of course) too low. Not a problem if you only run Walthers but there's a noticeable discrepancy if they're mixed with accurately done cars.
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Posted by jimrice4449 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:55 PM
And here's another shot at Walthers. The new lightwieght cars are 6 inches (scale of course) too low. Not a problem if you only run Walthers but there's a noticeable discrepancy if they're mixed with accurately done cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SILVERCHAMPION

Last year I got a Kato Budd business car and think that it is the best looking car that you can get for the money. I have a fleet of Rivarossi corrugated passenger cars that they made for IHC.

Why not review the merits of http://www.reboxx.com/wheelsets.htm
There are some 4 wheel & 6 wheel IHC's listed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:27 PM
I have the B&O Kato Business car. I havent had it out of the box since I grabbed it at the hobby shop. I know the paint is probably not protoypical but it rocks.

I use the heavy weight set from walthers and find it adequte for the money. I was told the BLI passenger cars might come out eventually but am not sure when.
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Posted by Newyorkcentralfan on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:08 PM
SILVERCHAMPION wrote:

"I have a fleet of Rivarossi corrugated passenger cars that they made for IHC."

IHC passenger cars are not made by Rivarossi.

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Posted by fmilhaupt on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Newyorkcentralfan

SILVERCHAMPION wrote:

IHC passenger cars are not made by Rivarossi.

Eric


Not the current ones, but if you go back about fifteen years or so, Rivarossi made four different body styles of corrugated-side cars that IHC imported. These were the so-called "1940s" cars- a coach (RF&P prototype), and observation car (from the Reading Crusader), a lunch-counter grille car (NYC) and a sleeper (an NYC 10-6). If I remember correctly, these were all Budd prototypes, though they applied a UP-style letterboard to all of them and gave all of them full skirting (which only the observation car really had).

These were done quite nicely, and were completely different from the cars that IHC currently (yuck) offers.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Newyorkcentralfan

SILVERCHAMPION wrote:

"I have a fleet of Rivarossi corrugated passenger cars that they made for IHC."

IHC passenger cars are not made by Rivarossi.

Eric


The current IHC cars are not made by Rivarossi. However a number of years ago the IHC cars were made by Rivarossi and the line included a set of Budd corregated Stainless Steel cars which IHC listed as thier 1940s set. The cars were, and are, excellent.
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Posted by MRTerry on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:26 AM
The Rivarossi Budd cars are indeed very nice, though they need some weight, different couplers, and better wheels (I shave the brake shoes back and use Kadee 36" wheels on mine) if you want them to operate reliably. An interior or some window shades also helps.

I agree with fmilhaupt on the prototypes of every car but the coach. I could be wrong, but I think it's actually a model of a pre-World War II NYC Budd coach. The RF&P may have had identical cars, however, or like I said, I could be wrong.

Thanks for reading MR,
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Posted by jimrice4449 on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:31 AM
You're right they're NYC but they're close enough to Santa Fe that I'm using three of them on the Scout I'm making up w/ a clear concience.
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Posted by emdgp92 on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:01 PM
I just bought an N scale NYC business car from Kato. The hobby shop I bought it from salvaged it when they were flooded last year...and let me have it for less than half-off. I took it apart, cleaned it up...and was amazed at the detailing. I didn't expect to find a full interior and a tail sign in N scale :p
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:11 PM
Having owned various brands of passenger cars, the Walthers Budd cars are beauties! As are those beautiful Katos.

I have some of the older Rivorossi cars from the late 80s-early 90s. For their time, they do look nice. I'm upgrading them with interiors, wheels, and lighting kits to run with my Walthers Budd cars. All skirts will be cut off.

The IHC cars were rather dissappointing.

SilverChampion, what was wrong the Walthers car you bought? What about it made you unhappy?

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jimrice4449

And here's another shot at Walthers. The new lightwieght cars are 6 inches (scale of course) too low. Not a problem if you only run Walthers but there's a noticeable discrepancy if they're mixed with accurately done cars.
Hmmm, who makes an accurately done car. I've been mixing the Walthers with all my others and have not noticed a difference.

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