Major Announcement Coming From MTH at NMRA Show in Cincinnati

[railroadyoshi]

If a company has bad management, and doesnt look towards the greater good of the hobby, then i dont care how wonderful the product is

[Anonymous]

MTH? Who cares, I won't buy a *** thing from that guy. Ever.

So he can feel free to join the HO market, but then when he loses his a** he will look around for someone else to sue so he can stay in business.

Paul

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by redneckgoober

Hey, why can't Mike get into HO? The more the better. You boys don't know about the good stuff he put out in O gauge. Take a look and you will change your minds.

Red

I for one am very familiar with MTH's O scale offerings, and own about 40 pieces. I am very happy with all of the rolling stock, but I will not buy any of the engines that have DCS. DCS does not impress me, and it is incapable of operating my layout the way I want to do it. Personally I have always felt that it was developed solely out of spite for Lionel and their TMCC system.

That combined with Mike's "bull in a china shop" business style has me siding with the HO guys. I think that it is quite clear that Mike has stepped on a lot of toes long before there was any announcement of an attempt to enter the HO market. In all honesty, I don't believe Mike ever wanted to get into HO, but rather was sucked in, in order to try to defend and justify his DCS patent.

For as smart a businessman as Mike is, I just don't see how he expects to sell unit one to a market that resents his very existance.

Bottom line, I don't even do HO, but I believe in the fellowship of all in the hobby. This whole MTH HO debacle is very upsetting to a lot of people, and in my opinion counterproductive.

[Anonymous]

I've seen the stuff he has in O guage, Red. I saw one of those new Erie Triplex's yesterday. Pathetic! I've seen Bachmann's with more detail! And oh how the thing buzzed when it ran! If MTH can do that bad on an O model, I'd hate to see how they could ruin an HO one.........

[Anonymous]

Hey, why can't Mike get into HO? The more the better. You boys don't know about the good stuff he put out in O gauge. Take a look and you will change your minds.

Red

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SSW9389

Just thought of another announcement they could make, "MTH is buying Horizon Hobbies."[:D]

And bringing out a Challenger, a F7 and a K4 off course!!!

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dgware76

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rivet Counter

I was told some exciting news today about MTH's entry into HO. I'm not able to divulge this information but it will be something that I think will revolutionize the HO industry. It will be the talk of the NMRA show in Cincy when it's announced. Stay tuned.[:D]

It sure sounds like you work in MTH's Marketing Department to me. Only an idiot from marketing would come up with something like this to "generrate" excitement for the announcement. It sounds lame, phony and just like something I would expect to hear from a used car salesman. Give me a break!

When I see posts like this, I know that I will never take the poster of such drivel seriously from that point on.

Dave

[#ditto][#ditto] Bravo Dave!!!!!! Congratulations on your first post.[^]


I see you came back for seconds while I was reading. [tup][tup]

[ChessieFan13]

well if thats the case then they ( MTH) are stupid. that is like me saying that you all cant work on the layout an 4 in the morning cause thats when i do my best work. Would like to see everyone in the hobby to have fun and not try to be finks.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by redneckgoober

You boys sure are hostile towards ol Mike. I think he would be great for HO. Just give him a chance and don't listen to gossip about lawsuits. He could buy Horizon if he wants to. Maybe he will.

Red

Yeah, he can bring all the realism and accuracy MTH stuff is famous for to HO.

While I believe that Lionel and its partners in crime may have gotten what they deserved, the DCC/Sound lawsuits/threats will hurt the hobby in the long run. I'll never support them or forgive them for that.

Dave

[AggroJones]

Its INCREDIBLE how much negativity Mike generated amung HOers. How is he supposed to survive in our market?

I protest him on principle.

[jfugate]

Like it or not, there is a perception among HOers that MTH is in the hobby for themselves, and not especially interested in furthering anything except the size of their own pocketbook.

While the truth is probably far less negative as to MTH's true motives, the damage has been done. If MTH wanted name recoginition in the hobby, they've got it. Makes one wonder it that wasn't their true goal all along.

Time will tell if being perceived as a "robber baron" in the hooby is healthy for business or not.

[jeffshultz]

MTH is suing QSI/Soundtraxx/Someone significant in DCC over the ability to control a locomotives speed in 1 mph increments, and the way of doing that.

Something that a lot of HO'ers consider meritless, and thus not just bad for the hobby, but actively antagonistic towards the hobby.

Personally, I figure Lionel got what was coming to them when they stole the locomotive design.

[ChessieFan13]

WELL Im kinda new but here it goes what is the upchuck about MTH? some one had to ask right? well there ya go

[Anonymous]

I want no part of MTH. I got fed up with him and his actions when I was in O-gauge. I am now back in HO and am very pleased with Athearn Genesis, Atlas, BLI and P2K.

Mike got my last dime 6 years ago.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by redneckgoober

You boys sure are hostile towards ol Mike. I think he would be great for HO. Just give him a chance and don't listen to gossip about lawsuits. He could buy Horizon if he wants to. Maybe he will.

Red

well, yeah, sure, with all the money he's hoping to get from lawsuits maybe he can someday. Ol Mike can DD as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous]

You boys sure are hostile towards ol Mike. I think he would be great for HO. Just give him a chance and don't listen to gossip about lawsuits. He could buy Horizon if he wants to. Maybe he will.

Red

[3railguy]

The most exciting news is MTH's new patented coupler called the "horn hook coupler".

[Wdlgln005]

THe only announcement I want to see is that MTH settled their dispute with Lionel. They would use their legal team to stop UP from charging so much to use their logos & stuff. THen we could all get back to modeling & out of the courthouse.

[Anonymous]

More likely, the other way 'round - Horizon buying MTH !!!

As much as Horizon has ticked off some HOers, it does not even BEGIN to compare to the HATRED knowledgable *** have for MTH. [:(!]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SSW9389

Just thought of another announcement they could make, "MTH is buying Horizon Hobbies."[:D]

Ouch.

[SSW9389]

Just thought of another announcement they could make, "MTH is buying Horizon Hobbies."[:D]

[cacole]

I don't care what they announce, I will NEVER buy one.

[SSW9389]

MTH will announce yet another SD40-2, UP Heavy Challenger, and F7AB to please the masses.

[pastorbob]

There is nothing that MTH could do to revolutionize HO for me, unless they folded up shop and left the country. They are a pax on the hobby as far as I am concerned.
Bob

[Anonymous]

Maybe they're gonna sue every model railroader that doesn't have one of their products.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rivet Counter

I was told some exciting news today about MTH's entry into HO. I'm not able to divulge this information but it will be something that I think will revolutionize the HO industry. It will be the talk of the NMRA show in Cincy when it's announced. Stay tuned.[:D]

It sure sounds like you work in MTH's Marketing Department to me. Only an idiot from marketing would come up with something like this to "generate" excitement for the announcement. It sounds lame, phony and just like something I would expect to hear from a used car salesman. Give me a break!

When I see posts like this, I know that I will never take the poster of such drivel seriously from that point on.

Dave

[Anonymous]

Rob:
Maybe their going to stay in the "O" scale and stay out of "HO. That would be a great annoucement.

[trolleyboy]

We are hopefully announcing the folding up of MTH. If not and they are going ahead with their HO line I'm now announcing a boycott of all their HO products.Thers no room for this company in HO. Not with their love of the lawsuit over building and coexisting with the other manufacturers. Rob

[Anonymous]

What ever it is, I'm not buying.

Any MTH HO product is DOA, as far as I am concerned.

[dinwitty]

they will merge with Lionel?.... 8-D