CSX and Conrail question...

[Anonymous]

Please forgive me if this questions has already been asked and answered on other threads that I may have over looked, but could someone out there tell me what parts of the country CSX and Conrail run ?.

"Thanks"

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

CSX all over the east coast area, while conrail is the north east coast usually. They have trackage rights over each other, which means that they can run trains on each others tracks. Sometimes you'll even see them in the same train.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxguy

CSX all over the east coast area, while conrail is the north east coast usually. They have trackage rights over each other, which means that they can run trains on each others tracks. Sometimes you'll even see them in the same train.

"Hey csxguy". Thanks for replying to my question so quickly. The reason I asked in the first place was because I've been seeing more and more Conrail and CSX down here lately where I live near Houston.

So you say it's okay (politically correct) to run Conrail and CSX together also ?.

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

Well, i've seen it done in the real world (i live in GA) so yeah, it should be okay. Hey, have you checked out the "new layout underway" topic? You should, it's really neat what this guy is doing with his layout.

[Anonymous]

[:I] lol, thanks. But in response to the question CSX bought Conrail (or merged, i dont know) so conrail and CSX are really all CSX. Any conrail engines are ones they just have not got around to painting in the CSX scheme. So running conrail and CSX together is perfectly OK. Its just like running SP and UP together. Assuming you are modeling the time after the takeover/merger there is no reason not to run them together.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

[:I] lol, thanks. But in response to the question CSX bought Conrail (or merged, i dont know) so conrail and CSX are really all CSX. Any conrail engines are ones they just have not got around to painting in the CSX scheme. So running conrail and CSX together is perfectly OK. Its just like running SP and UP together. Assuming you are modeling the time after the takeover/merger there is no reason not to run them together.

Would you happen to know what year they merged ?.

"Thanks"

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

no i dont recall, i think it was in the 80s or early 90s though

[retsignalmtr]

conrail was divided up between csx and ns just a few years ago. 5 maybe. the reason you may be seeing csx and conrail there is the railroads have run through aggreements that allow them to use each others locos. i see a lot of up and bnsf up north here on the hudson river line. there still is a conrail which is around the newark area in new jersey still using the conrail livery. it's jointly run by csx and ns.

[Anonymous]

Oh that recently! I learn something every day.

[BMRR]

Trainluver1.... Go to csx.com Click on CSX corporation, then, who we are, history, then rail heritage, you'll find a lot of info there.

Stan.

[Anonymous]

The exact date for the Conrail split was June 1, 1999. It was divided 58/42, don't remember exactly if CSX or NS got the bigger chunk of it.

[Anonymous]

Isn't CSX a combination of several roads? Does anyone know what they are?

[Anonymous]

CSX power was VERY common on CR, even before the split.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bnsfshaun

The exact date for the Conrail split was June 1, 1999. It was divided 58/42, don't remember exactly if CSX or NS got the bigger chunk of it.

NS got 58%.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxguy

Isn't CSX a combination of several roads? Does anyone know what they are?

I think it means Chessie System, Seaboard times ( X ) many others-I believe...

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

And what's left of Conrail will probably be going. Conrail, also known as the Shared Assets area, was going to operate a minimum of 5 years, before being completely taken over by CSX and NS. Conrail operates in northern New Jersey, parts of southern New Jersey, parts of southeastern Pa, and the Detroit area.

Conrail did what other railroads could not do. In many places where they operate, there is little room for yards and passing sidings, such as northern New Jersey. But they managed the problem beautifully, timing incoming and outgoing trains, truely J.I.T. railroading.

And having CSX and CR on your pike together is no stretch. Even before the takeover (it was no merger, CSX and NS killed Conrail and split it up), it was common to see both roads' engines in lashups.

Pre CSX ....... B & O, C& O, Western Maryland, SCL, Family, Georgia, Clichfield, etc

Ken

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BMRR

Trainluver1.... Go to csx.com Click on CSX corporation, then, who we are, history, then rail heritage, you'll find a lot of info there.

Stan.

Thank you BMRR (Stan), I'll check into it.

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

hmm...interesting...

[Anonymous]

Here is a link to a map of CSX coverage:

http://www.csx.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=start.check_locat

[cacole]

According to the official Conrail Web site:

Conrail was formed in April 1976 during a Government takeover of bankrupt eastern railroads such as the Penn Central, Reading, and others.

Conrail was split up in the Spring of 1997 and divided between CSX and NS.

I have seen a lot of Conrail and CSX locomotives and rolling stock on the Union Pacific's Sunset Route through SE Arizona, because these will probably never be repainted and will run until they are scrapped.

[Anonymous]

CSX guy, the switcher does not have a backwards paint job. The front of it is painted the way all CSX locomotives are with the "Bright Future" paint scheme. My friends and I were really excited when they announced a new paint scheme a year or two ago. The dark blue with the yellowish lettering hints at CSX's C&O past. I live in Huntington, WV. where one of the major CSX shops is located. It started out, of course, as a C&O facility. In don't know if the new paint scheme has a name. I do know that CSX says that it may take 12 years before all of their locomotives are repainted. The practice at the Huntington shops has been to repaint a locomotive when it is overhauled. I'm sure that is not always true, but in general that is the way they do it. I have three friends who work in the Huntington shops. The worst paint scheme was probably the "Stealth" scheme. It was called that because the engines were not as visible as they should have been. I think it was the first paint scheme. The locomotive was painted Seaboard Gray with Blue lettering. Where I live you see both CSX and NS trains. Conrail engines are common on both roads but not forever. At the Huntington shops, they have several old Conrail engines sitting around waiting to be repainted.

[BRJN]

Conrail was formed out of Pennsylvania, New York Central (which had recently merged to form Penn Central and gone spectacularly bankrupt), New Haven, Erie-Lackawanna, and a number of Eastern Pennsylvania / New Jersey railroads which were also bankrupts. The combined railroad had a coverage area of approximately Boston - Washington DC - Cincinnati - St Louis - Chicago.

CSX (Chessie and Seaboard together) was C&O, B&O, Western Maryland (the Chessie part), Seaboard Air Line, Atlantic Coast Line, Florida East Coast, Louisville and Nashville, and some smaller railroads in the Southeast. The seaboard group served about everything south of the Ohio River. Chessie served the area south of St Louis - Chicago - Detroit (actually most of Lower Michigan) - Pittsburgh - Baltimore.

Does this summarize it in a useful manner? [:)]