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Need help identifying this car. Want to buy it but can't find it on Walther's.

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Need help identifying this car. Want to buy it but can't find it on Walther's.
Posted by chrismay on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:42 PM


The URL's below should show you the picture if it doesn't show up.

http://www.onrgallery.com/preview473.jpg

http://www.onrgallery.com/picoftheday.html
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Posted by Doug Goulbourn on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:56 PM
This looks like a full-length dome car. Bachmann has one for HO Scale (don't know whether or not it is available in other scales) and it is listed on page 132 of the 2005 Walther's catalogue.

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Posted by Don Gibson on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:56 PM
look's like

An original AT&SF full lenth dome built for the 'Chief' and also used on the later 'San Fransico Chief'. THEIR'S was not a Diner as built.

Several accurate rendition's have been made in nickel plated brass, and Bachmann has some cheaper so so painted version's
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Posted by JohnT14808 on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:33 PM
Certainly is a snazzy looking piece of equipment. I'll have to check my Walthers.....
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:14 PM
Closest version would be the Bachmann car.

Looks decent and comes with an interior that's molded in an orange-yellow color (yuck!). If you get one, make sure you take out the interior and repaint the seats with a flat color! Depending on the railroad you're modeling, dark greens, browns, or reds would likely be the most appropriate. Bachman passenger cars are fairly easy to take apart, just take your time!

If you don't wi***o repaint them, then spray the seats with either Dullcote or a flat clear finish. Get rid of the shine on those seats as it makes them look "toylike".

Here's the item number for one that's on EBay as of this post: EBay Item #59785023.

Let us know when you get one of these as they are nice looking cars.

Hope this helps!

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Posted by twhite on Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:40 AM
Actually, I think that Super Dome car was originally used on GN's "Empire Builder", especially since the history of the car indicates that the fluting was added after AMTRAK sold it. The original would have been built by Pullman for the 1956 "Empire", and had non-fluted sides. I've seen photographs of it in the original Omaha orange and green livery, and it was one BEAUTIFUL car! If that's the version you might be after, I'd be surprised if you'd find it in anything but brass. I think Oriental Limited imported one some years back.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 6:37 AM
I'd say your best bet would be to modify the Bachmann car - looks like you'd need to blank a few windows and maybe cut some new ones, but that's not too difficult - to fill them, glue the glazing in place and use that as a backing plate for plastic filler, sand it smooth and paint, I've used this technique a few times now and it works well even for a novice kitbasher like me. Check first though - I've not looked closely at the Bachmann car and it may well not be far off correct as delivered. Hope this helps!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 6:56 AM
TA462 has the correct history of the car from Amtrak ownership to date.

The car was built by Pullman Standard for Milwaukee Road in 1952 as its "Super Dome" No. 57.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 6:59 AM
It is definatly Ontario Northern's dining or dome car

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