Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

MR Mar 2002 Article: Designing a layout to fit your DINKY SPACE!

2935 views
35 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Ft Wayne IN
  • 332 posts
Posted by BRJN on Friday, April 1, 2005 10:25 PM
A few weeks ago I got to go on 'remote assignment' at work - I was running a project to repack/relabel some product into the new numbering system. (My employer makes plastic plates, lids, to-go containers, and such.) The product was in a storage warehouse with a ceiling about three stories above the floor, rooms easily 150 ft square.

I was mentally filling the space with visions of the Smoky Mountains in HO scale ... and A LOT of plaster gauze ... or a version of the Grand Rapids & Indiana that was only SLIGHTLY condensed between towns (This would be laid out on the ultimate snake-shelf peninsula layout). I had thought about an around-the-room spiral but I would have to provide remote controls for every train, and aisle space for two forklifts to pass each other.

At this point a bit of reality began to set in: I work for an employer that cannot afford to buy itself enough forklifts, let alone pay me enough to buy a bunch of forklifts for my own. [:o)]

This is far too big for anybody's $$$ (except maybe a government project). The Smoky Mountains can be painted or photographed onto the backdrop. And most of the GR&I layout would have farm fields (and a loosely parallel highway) as scenery anyway. So this probably ought to be condensed into a profitable thought experiment. A regular bedroom - or even a master bedroom - is big enough to get the real nuggets you want for the flavor.
Modeling 1900 (more or less)
  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Rimrock, Arizona
  • 11,251 posts
Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, April 2, 2005 12:33 AM
I'm thinking 3 years maybe for my 20x12 mid-size basement layout. Maybe $1200 for lumber, a Zepher, track and tortoises. I have plenty (I almost said enough) rolling stock and engines.

I could not conceive of actually doing a warehouse layout.

Chip

Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: New Zealand
  • 462 posts
Posted by robengland on Sunday, April 3, 2005 8:59 PM
Spacemouse

amazing how time and mony estimates look when you really pin them down, whether managing IT projects, house renovations or MR layouts. May I suggest you never refine the estimates you have already made [:O]

As for your technique, I think it would be a good one for designing a biggish home layout. For small ones, I think the reality constraints soon chop so much away that it wouldn't gain you much over just listing a few bullet points. But it would be a fine armchair exercise anyway [:D]
Rob Proud owner of the a website sharing my model railroading experiences, ideas and resources.
  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: New Milford, Ct
  • 3,232 posts
Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, April 4, 2005 10:39 PM
Spacemouse,
You are talking about what i'm trying to do now. My first attempt was too small and after several delicate negotiations , i acquired the rights to my present 12' x 12' location. I alreaady had a table and a fair bit of track and now I'm going through existing plans and seeing what i want to feature. Hopefully i will be able to do both point to point and at least one main line loop with scenery and grades, but how does one draw the line, and how do you avoid looking like 5 qts in a 4 qt tin? I'm now 6 revisions into a 100 page graph paper sketch pad, no one has enough room for real scale distances,probably not even the switch yard only layouts. How do plan to do this yourself? J.R.
he who has never made a mistake has never made much
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Mississippi
  • 819 posts
Posted by ukguy on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 1:23 AM
cmrproducts, do you have a website or photos online of your layout that I could view. I would be very interested to see it.

Have fun & be safe
Karl.
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Ft Wayne IN
  • 332 posts
Posted by BRJN on Friday, April 8, 2005 10:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GMTRacing

Hopefully i will be able to do both point to point and at least one main line loop with scenery and grades, but how does one draw the line, and how do you avoid looking like 5 qts in a 4 qt tin?


I am not a professional at this, but you could try designing a continuous loop with a 'division-point' facility in it. A branch line runs out of the division point and goes around the room (maybe above the loop or maybe in front of it) to its endpoint destination, maybe half-way around. The continuous loop could be hidden behind hills or under a tunnel or behind buildings where the branch is supposed to occupy attention. The other half of the room (where there is no branch) you can have the loop be the main thing to see.
Modeling 1900 (more or less)

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!