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cutting
Member since
August 2002
From: New Zealand
14 posts
Poultry car
Posted by
cutting
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:37 PM
Recently I acquired an old AMBROID kit for "Livesay Poultry Car"; the kit was part of an auction lot of stripwood. The seller has no knowledge of trains, selling on behalf of a deceased friend. THERE WERE NO INSTRUCTIONS!! Not even a picture! The kit has lots of bits of wood inside, some decalled and painted. I'm not scared of this sort of kit, but I have no idea what a Poultry car looks like! Can anybody help?? A copy of the instructions would be great ;-)) I've emailed Ambroid (who now only make glue) but no reply. I emailed NorthEastern Scale Models, who supply the stripwood; they gave great service by replying immediately, but unfortunately couldn't help. Even a picture would be a good start! I have quite a good collection of old Model Railroaders, if anyone can pinpoint this kit I might be able to find it in an old magazine. I've been modelling for more than 20 years now, but I can't remember ever seeing a Poultry Car!
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:55 PM
Have you checked MR's online magazine index? I've seen something somewhere on this kit, perhaps a kit review. But they may not be in the index. The model probably is more than 20 years old, so references to it may not be in your collection.
Bob Boudreau
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jrbarney
Member since
January 2002
1,132 posts
Posted by
jrbarney
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:01 PM
Cutting,
There's an outside chance that the NMRA's
Kalmbach Memorial Library
might have the instruction sheet in their files:
http://www.nmra.org/library/
It's worth a try. Their photocopy fee is reasonable, even if you're not a member. If not, here are the article citations from the
Index of Magazines
:
Poultry car
Model Railroader
, October 1947, page 804 ( DRAWING, POULTRY, STOCKCAR, FREIGHTCAR, PROTOTYPE, MR )
Strictly for the birds - a Poultry Car
Railroad Model Craftsman
, May 1951, page 10
( DRAWING, "MILLER, BILL", POULTRY, SCRATCHBUILD, CONSTRUCTION, FREIGHTCAR, RMC )
Live poultry car
Model Railroader
, July 1961, page 26 ( DRAWING, "GEISSEL, J. HAROLD", POULTRY, STOCKCAR, FREIGHTCAR, PROTOTYPE, MR )
Bob
NMRA Life 0543
"Time flies like an arrow - fruit flies like a banana." "In wine there is wisdom. In beer there is strength. In water there is bacteria." --German proverb
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:34 PM
Here's a link to a Palace Poultry Car photo. Don't know how a Livesay compares, but it's a sure bet the birds ain't riding in a palace. (Yuck, yuck..)
http://www.sacramentohistory.org/search.php?imageid=1363
Wayne
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Dough
Member since
March 2002
From: Athens, GA
549 posts
Posted by
Dough
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:37 PM
There is a book about the history of Gainesville, Georgia that has a picture of some guys loading one. I'll try to get you a copy of the picture. I believe that it was pretty good and showed an open door. Shoot me an email if I forget.
I was pretty supprised the such a thing existed, but poultry is a huge business around here so I guess it was something that they tried.
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orsonroy
Member since
March 2002
From: Elgin, IL
3,677 posts
Posted by
orsonroy
on Friday, March 18, 2005 8:04 AM
The NEB&W freight car database has several photos of poultry cars, as well as general rosters and histories:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu
Ray Breyer
Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943
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cutting
Member since
August 2002
From: New Zealand
14 posts
Posted by
cutting
on Friday, March 18, 2005 8:55 AM
Thanks guys for all your help!! I should be able to get something out of all this!
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jrbarney
Member since
January 2002
1,132 posts
Posted by
jrbarney
on Friday, March 18, 2005 6:45 PM
Cutting,
You can find a bit more text and two illustrations of poultry cars on pages 268 through 270 of:
The American Railroad Freight Car, From the Wood-Car Era to the Coming of Steel
John H. White, Jr.
1993
The Johns Hopkins University Press
ISBN 0-8018-4404-5
Don't know how many copies of that tome there are in Oz, so you might want to request photocopies from the NMRA's
Kalmbach Memorial Library
:
http://www.nmra.org/library/
Good luck with the kit.
Bob
NMRA Life 0543
"Time flies like an arrow - fruit flies like a banana." "In wine there is wisdom. In beer there is strength. In water there is bacteria." --German proverb
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BRJN
Member since
July 2004
From: Ft Wayne IN
332 posts
Posted by
BRJN
on Friday, March 18, 2005 9:12 PM
Whyte's book
The American Railroad Freight Car, 1850-1900
(I think that is correct) has a picture of a poultry car in it. This may or may not help with yours. Be advised, though, that this book is double-oversized and HEAVY and fees for an inter-library loan from USA to NZ may be prohibitive. [:o)]
Modeling 1900 (more or less)
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cutting
Member since
August 2002
From: New Zealand
14 posts
Posted by
cutting
on Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:50 PM
Thanks guys for your help, I've managed to get plans for a similar (but not exactly the same) Ambroid kit via the Kalmbach Library at the NMRA. And every now and then I do a search on Ebay to see if anyone is selling the same kit; maybe one day I'll find the exact one ... thanks again for your help!
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IRONROOSTER
Member since
June 2003
From: Culpeper, Va
8,204 posts
Posted by
IRONROOSTER
on Friday, April 15, 2005 3:53 AM
Don't know how similar it is to yours, but Ye Olde Huff n Puff makes a kit for one http://www.yeoldehuffnpuff.com/HOFreight.HTM
Enjoy
Paul
If you're having fun, you're doing it the right way.
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