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Need inexpensive alternatives for ballast

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:39 PM
WHATEVER BALLAST YOU COLLECT, MAKE SURE YOU SPREAD IT OUT THINLY AND GO OVER IT SEVERAL TIMES WITH A STRONG MAGNET!

It is astonishing how much magnetic material can be found in even the most innocous looking sands.
You don't want any of that finding its way into your motors and wheel bearings!
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:49 PM
Pay the $9.50 for giant 32oz. shaker of WS ballast. That amount goes a long way.

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Posted by brothaslide on Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:23 PM
Thanks for the input - anymore would be appreciated!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:46 AM
I've been going up to railroad yard and getting a bucket of the silicanic sand. Then i take a 5Qt.icecream pail fill it about half way buy some black liquid Rit dye add about 1/3 of the bottle to the half pail. Mix it together,use an old wooden or metal spoon, (you may want to wear a pair of rubber gloves for this.) After you have the sand mixed and well colored lay out some newspaper, our what i like brown paper bags, put the sand on the paper and just let it dry out spread it out in a very thin layer to help it dry faster. You may end up with some bigger clusters of sand but just break it up with your hands. Cost one bottle of Rit dye about $2.50 and alittle gas to find the sand. One 5gal.bucket and a bottle of RiT dye should give you enough cinders for a life time. Rit also makes a grey dye for main line ballast.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:08 AM
from the model railroading handbook it suggests to use common dirt or sand for ballast. Pick a color that corresponds to the type of ballast used on your real railroad. You can even pulverize chunks of real ballast by putting them in a thick cloth bag and hitting it with a hammer. Sift the "ballast" through a piece of door screen. Use only the finer portion that passes through the screen.
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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:28 AM
I would agree with Bob, you can buy good ballast at reasonable prices via mail order. Arizona Rock & Mineral, Greeat Northen, and Dale Kuhn all produce real rock ballast.
I would avoid the kitty Litter, walnut shells, and coffee grounds. They all can grow fungus type crud after time. A club I belonged to bought fine sand, screened it, and did the dye thing - lots of work. They also dug real cinders out of the ash pit at the old St Paul Union Depot, screened it, baked it, and ran it through a large magnet to make very nice yard ballast - a lot of work!

Here are the URL's for the companies I mentioned:

Dale Kuhn - http://www.greatdecals.com/Scale.htm
Great Northern Ballast - http://www.ballast-train.com/
Arizona Rock & Mineral - http://rrscenery.com/

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:06 AM
There are firms that market ballast in larger quantities, I think Arizona Rock & Mineral is one of them, don't have any more info. Might be worth a search.

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Posted by hminky on Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:43 AM
I model in O scale but the sands at Home Improvement centers are cheap enough to sift down to finer levels. I use it as a basic ground cover.I have a web article discussing my theory of gravel at:

http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/gravel/

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Posted by Fergmiester on Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:42 AM
Try coffee grounds or used fi***ank charcoal.

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Posted by lupo on Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:51 AM
Grinded kitty-litter, you could use an old electric coffee grinder
afterwards sift the out the big lumps in a mesh, to get an more evenly sized structure.
coloring can be done as Rick writes by mixing with small amounts of water color or dye.
other possibilty is grinded wallnutshells
also found some nice structured gravel / sand in a petshop, it was sold for use as bottomcovering for an aquarium ( fishtank? )
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Posted by GN-Rick on Sunday, February 20, 2005 2:02 AM
You could try a bag of sand for concrete use. It is available through many
home improvement stores and is relatively cheap. OR-if you live near a
beach with fine sand you could get some there. Either way, run the sand
through a screen to rid yourself of contaminants and to obtain a uniform
size. Then, if you want a different color-other than the sand's natural gray-
you could tint it with thinned paint or a dye. Do this in small batches in
some sort of mixing container (that you don't need for anything else!).
I know-this is cheap and dirty but it does work-better than you might think.
Rick Bolger Great Northern Railway Cascade Division-Lines West
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Need inexpensive alternatives for ballast
Posted by brothaslide on Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:03 AM
Buying the bagged ballast from the LHS is somewhat expensive. Does anyone have any thoughts, ideas, or insight how to make your own, etc.?

I forgot to mention - I model in HO.

Take care,

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