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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:21 AM

Top of the Page!  Order what you want, it's on me.


Good Morning Diners.  Chloe, coffee and an english muffin please.

Had to take my oldest to a couple of doctor appointments out of town yesterday.  The whole family went and we played tourist in between the appointments.  Made for a nice day in spite of the doctors.  

Bear, sorry to hear about the club.  That is unfortunate.  Seems to be a going thing in that people just won't volunteer to help out much anymore.  Our small town here had two big events semi-officially end this year as they couldn't get volunteers to help with them.  It would seem those that stand to benefit the most from them (and the benefit from one for sure was not inconsequential) would pitch in to help make sure they happen, but no.

Hoping Brent is doing okay.  Miss his posts.  Anyone hear from JR?  I know after his move he had some things to accomplish before being able to start on a new layout, but sure would like to have him check in.  I know there are others that are AWOL, but my coffee hasn't kicked in yet.  If you know you haven't posted in a while, chime in to let us know you are okay if nothing else.

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Posted by AEP528 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:53 AM

gmpullman

Sad news, indeed Bear. Looking back on all the clubs I've participated in there isn't a single one extant. I don't know if it is a sign of the times (some of those clubs disintegrated many years ago) or if it is simply lack of effort on the participants.

If the clubs are like this forum, and the majority of the people show up to socialize instead of focusing on the club's purpose, the clubs will die out. 

Add in a few examples of the type of thankfully former users of this forum, and the people who want to put real effort into building and operating a model railroad are driven away.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 8:06 AM

David I hope Dawn is feeling better.  Your book reminded me of the news.  North Korea launched a missle from a train.  I would have thought that would have been destructive to the train and track.

My experience with everything is 80% or the work is done by 20% of the people.

Our beagle Bella is at the vet's getting a ECG.  Even when it's not hot, she is getting very short of breath on her walks.  She is only 5 yo. 

Everyone's tomatoes are coming in extremely late this year.  I planted a German yellow variety.  The fruit are very large and splitting at the top.  We are tired of squash and are giving that away.

It's actually chilly down the basement and I haven't looked at the trains in a couple weeks.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 9:56 AM

Henry.   Dawn is much better, thank you.

Railway guns have been around since before the Great War. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_12-inch_railway_gun

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_18-inch_railway_howitzer

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_14-inch_railway_gun

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 10:15 AM

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Good morning everyone.

Water Level Route
Top of the Page!  Order what you want, it's on me.

Chloe, could you cube up some roast beef and have the cook mix into some scambled eggs with lots of cheese and butter? Yummy!

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Work on the master bedroom is coming along. I am on a two-week vacation, and I am trying to get some drywall up before it is over.

BigDaddy
Everyone's tomatoes are coming in extremely late this year. 

This year all the landscaping is recovering from the hurricane last year. My Crape Myrtels bloomed early, and have been blooming like crazy ever since. My Frangiapani has more blooms than normal, but they are smaller. The Indian Hawthorn and Royal Poinciana have not bloomed at all this year.

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Posted by Tin Can II on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 10:25 AM

Today is our 37th anniversary; we were supposed to take a quick trip to the mountains of New Mexico.  However, my Dad is moving this weekend from his apartment in Wichita Falls to a room with my sister in her new home.  Sister moved to Lubbock a month ago to be near her kids/grandkids.  We spent last weekend packing.  It is going to be a mess.  In the last three years he has gone from a 2,500 s/f house on 3 acres to a two bedroom apartment to a bedroom.  Lots and lots of stuff to give away. The lack of planning and organization is killing my wife.  And he is missing Mom.  

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 10:46 AM

Tin Can II
In the last three years he has gone from a 2,500 s/f house on 3 acres to a two bedroom apartment to a bedroom.  Lots and lots of stuff to give away. The lack of planning and organization is killing my wife.  And he is missing Mom.  

In the years after my father passed away, his wife went from a giant house outside of Del Rio, Texas, to their Summer home in Fort Madison, Iowa, to a small manufactured home in Bonita Springs, Florida, to a room in my house, and now into assisted living in Iowa.

There was so much stuff to dispose of, and it all fell on me (mostly my wife), and we were not even related to her. Her children did nothing except fight over what had value.

I feel for your situation.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 1:21 PM

Good afternoon, everyone.

JaBear
At the time I struggled to get the manpower to help run the show: too many members were happy just to swan about, bask in the reflected glory, indulge in the free coffees and sandwiches, not contribute anything,

That's too bad about your club, Bear.  Unfortunately, I think it's a sign of the times, and not just for model rr clubs.  Town service clubs, volunteer organizations, and church service groups all seem to have the same problem.  I think people seem to be so busy today that clubs and organizations suffer because no one feels they want to take more time.

 

David, glad to hear that Dawn is feeling better.

 

SeeYou190
Work on the master bedroom is coming along. I am on a two-week vacation, and I am trying to get some drywall up before it is over.

I keep thinking one of these days, you will report that everything in the house is finished and you will be able to start your layout!

 

SeeYou190
Her children did nothing except fight over what had value.

I hear that a lot.  Some kids are too busy to take care of the parent, but sure find the time to stand in line with their hand out when the inheritance comes along.  Terrible.

 

Tin Can II
In the last three years he has gone from a 2,500 s/f house on 3 acres to a two bedroom apartment to a bedroom.  Lots and lots of stuff to give away. The lack of planning and organization is killing my wife.  And he is missing Mom.  

That's too bad.  I know the feeling.  With both my parents and the in-laws, we ended up giving away tons of stuff.  Good luck.  Once it's finished, you will be able to relax.  Happy anniversary anyway!  Thumbs Up

 

I'm spending a little time on the layout today.  This is the first actual rr work I've done in a long while.  Maybe because it's just so hot and humid outside, I can stay cool in the layout room!

Have a great day, everyone.

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 2:21 PM

York1
I keep thinking one of these days, you will report that everything in the house is finished and you will be able to start your layout!

I sure hope it is soon.

When I started this remodel, in February of 2017, the goal was to have the train room done by January, 2022. I thought five years for the whole project was plenty of time.

It would have been, if not for how I keep deciding to upgrade everything along the way. All the delays are my own doing.

I won't bother anyone with the details of what I had to do to get a surround system into the tray ceiling indent of the master bedroom, but that added a few weeks right there.

With everything that is done, I am very glad I upgraded everything and went all-in. I would be disappointed with compromises.

But, the delays are so frustrating.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:41 PM

We are having a tremendous rain/thunder/wind storm outside right now.

This is incredible to watch out the rear window.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:47 PM

Tin Can  Lubbock is a neat little town, but you have to imagine the weather forecast might be for Blowing Mud one day!  University Town, go to Abuelo's and have a margarita for me or River Smith's for some fried catfish.

I'm undownsizeable.

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Posted by up831 on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 8:39 PM

Hi Everyone,

Did somebody mention Lubbock, Texas.

https://youtu.be/rXCm4BXJX40

Enjoy!

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, July 27, 2023 1:08 AM

Well, the house next door to mine finally sold. I do not know if they got the $290,000.00 they were asking for it.

They took the For Sale sign down today, and workers are there making it look better. I think a flip is taking place.

Hopefully it gets sold, and then it will no longer be a rental property.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, July 27, 2023 6:27 AM
Gidday Chloe, could I have a hot chocolate with a nip of rum added, please. There’s been heavy snow on the Desert Road, and the southerly wind is rather chilly!!
 
Yeah, Mike and York1John, I believe your assessment of dwindling membership of clubs and similar organisations in general is correct, and while AEP 528 raises a valid point, too much chat and not enough work, to my mind there has to be a number of other reasons.
 
Paling into insignificance compared to some of the workshops/assembly sheds that Ed has come up with, is another offering from Albert Percy Godber.
 
 APG4 by Bear, on Flickr
 
And one depicting locomotives being built by the North British Locomotive Company.
 
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, July 27, 2023 9:06 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Skipping work today as it's my oldest daughter's 19th birthday.  Having family over for lunch in a couple hours.  Should be nice.

I was inspired last night by a combination of the recent "Impulse buying" thread and a sale at a popular online train store.  Ordered a locomotive that I have loved forever and a day, but belonged to my preferred prototype's chief rival.  No it won't fit my layout, but a shiny new Pennsylvania Railroad GG-1 should be on my doorstep relatively soon! Big Smile  I can't wait.  I had no plans at adding another engine anytime soon as I just added an SD-7 and an Erie Built A-B pair, but the combination of the deal and my love of the GG-1 was too much to resist! So what if it will pull New York Central lettered trains through my version of the decidedly not electrified Adirondacks.  I don't care.  Big Smile  Hey, Model Railroading is fun!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:18 AM

Water Level Route

I was inspired last night by a combination of the recent "Impulse buying" thread and a sale at a popular online train store.  Ordered a locomotive that I have loved forever and a day, but belonged to my preferred prototype's chief rival.  No it won't fit my layout, but a shiny new Pennsylvania Railroad GG-1 should be on my doorstep relatively soon! Big Smile  I can't wait.  I had no plans at adding another engine anytime soon as I just added an SD-7 and an Erie Built A-B pair, but the combination of the deal and my love of the GG-1 was too much to resist! So what if it will pull New York Central lettered trains through my version of the decidedly not electrified Adirondacks.  I don't care.  Big Smile  Hey, Model Railroading is fun!

 

 

Oh the 'It won't fit my layout' scenario.

Been there and all that with my favourite locomotives.   The fact 'it's my railway' doesn't cut with some 'purists'.

I love Class 52 locomotives.  The purist often say they never went beyond Birmingham, never mind Leeds.   When I say I have it in writing and in picture form that the  52s did get to Leeds, they still deny such a thing happened. 

Another one the purists argue here is Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway locomotives never travelled North Eastern Railway metals.   Yet during Summertime the L&Y  ran to Scarborough:  deep in NER territory.

 

What fun seeing a rival company train  bringing a little variety to the operations. 

Looking at some information regarding your locomotive.

'The motors also handled a multitude of other railroads' trains which provided connections to New York, names like the ChampionSilver Meteor, and Crescent.'

Of course 'It's your railroad',  but it is nice to know the Pennsy ran elsewhere.

 

David

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:49 AM

The World Is A Beautiful Place

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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Good morning everyone. Chloe, I would like a bowl of corn flakes and a banana that I can slice into them. Thank you.

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Water Level Route
I was inspired last night by a combination of the recent "Impulse buying" thread and a sale at a popular online train store.

I received a package yesterday of my goodies from that popular online train store. I certainly didn't need 12 sheets of building signs, but at $2.00 per sheet... why not?

I also got all the A-Line diapragms for my MDC Harriman cars for $3.00 each!

NorthBrit
Been there and all that with my favourite locomotives.   The fact 'it's my railway' doesn't cut with some 'purists'. I love Class 52 locomotives.  The purist often say they never went beyond Birmingham, never mind Leeds.

There is another reason why "purists" have never been invited into my layout room.

My modelling was never intended to meet your standard. It is an escape for me.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, July 27, 2023 12:25 PM

Water Level Route
So what if it will pull New York Central lettered trains through my version of the decidedly not electrified Adirondacks.  I don't care.    Hey, Model Railroading is fun!

Like David and Kevin, I'd say it's nobody's business if my trains are correct or not.  It's my railroad.

I have all modern trains on the layout.  Except ... among the 2020 locomotives, cars, and buildings, runs a 1950's Union Pacific "City of Los Angeles".  It is a train I rode as a kid in the 1950s, and I love having it run on the layout.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, July 27, 2023 1:17 PM

York1

 Like David and Kevin, I'd say it's nobody's business if my trains are correct or not.  It's my railroad.

 

 

Exactly.

Just to add:  I love doing research.  (Research into various things.)

One time I was researching what trains arrived and departed Leeds Central.  Apart from the obvious local ones to towns around Leeds,   I was reminded of the many express trains starting or finishing or passing through. (Thames - Clyde,  Thames - Forth,  North Briton to name three.)  Then there were a few I never knew that did.   All gave rise to running the large fleet of locomotives I own.

 

More research I found about the 'Club Cars' from Blackpool to Manchester.  Business people in Blackpool travelling to Manchester paid an annual premium  for a seat in a special carriage.   That seat was theirs, so when they boarded the train there was no 'looking for a seat'.  That was the only service the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway offered it on.  What fun to have such a service on Wetherby to Leeds.  Ficticious maybe, another train to run and fun to operate.

 

All done through research and adding extra train running.

 

David

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Posted by up831 on Thursday, July 27, 2023 6:07 PM

Hi Everyone,

Tin Can:  Happy 37th, and many more.

I don't think it really matters what we run on our railroads.  Sure, a SD70MAC will sure look out of place behind a cab forward, but wait, 4014 has a modern diesel behind it, so the sky's pretty much the limit.  On one hand it's good to have something prototypical for roads, geography, structures, etc, but isnt it equally rewarding if our modeling is simply plausible.  I'm a UP/SP guy, but I also love the GN Empire Builder scheme, and will plan on some GN diesels with the rest of the livery even though they never ran together in Kansas.  And as far as that goes, I might plan a citrus growers exchange next to a flour mill.  It's all plausible.  Well, I'd probably have a citrus exchange on another part of a layout, but you all get the idea.  Sometimes I think large scale MRRs have a good idea, they enjoy running trains and aren't too concerned about being prototypical.

Ok, I'll get off the soap box now. SoapBox

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, July 27, 2023 7:22 PM

up831
And as far as that goes, I might plan a citrus growers exchange next to a flour mill.  It's all plausible.

Exactly where do people think jelly donuts come from?

Water Level Route
No it won't fit my layout, but a shiny new Pennsylvania Railroad GG-1 should be on my doorstep relatively soon!

 PRR_GG6 by Edmund, on Flickr

You can see I really don't like the BLI GG1s much (I also model New York Central, sort ofWhistling) Hey! There IS a GG1 in Elkhart right along the NYC main line.

Who needs catenary?

https://www.trains.com/ctr/photos-videos/photo-of-the-day/gg1-on-the-bo/

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, July 27, 2023 8:14 PM

Edit

Dots - Sign Wow! That was difficult, the new phone works.  Kinda, Imgur is Jacked though! Tongue Tied

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, July 27, 2023 11:28 PM

gmpullman
You can see I really don't like the BLI GG1s much.

Six... I count six. I don't have six of any locomotive!

Wait... F units. I have more than six.

OK

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, July 27, 2023 11:37 PM

SeeYou190
Six... I count six. I don't have six of any locomotive!

This was just before I sent one off to Cuda Ken — but I've since bought two more Embarrassed

HAD to have a silver one to pull my Congressional Limited Surprise

 PRR_4880-GG1-a by Edmund, on Flickr

Still, the TrainWorld deal is pretty good as far as current prices go.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Friday, July 28, 2023 5:50 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Chloe, a cinnamon roll and some coffee please.

I can't wait for the GG-1 to get here.  I'm so excited.  I love steam locomotives and F units, but that GG-1 is special.  Ed, I love the lineup photo you posted.  It might be time for me to start indulging in a few trains that don't fit my layout scheme.  The only non-New York Central locomotive I've had on the layout is a Boston & Maine RS-3, but I justified that with a trackage rights agreement in the backstory of my layout.  This will be the first "just for fun" one.  There really aren't that many just for fun engines I really want, so why not?

Yesterday went well.  Had a nice day with my kiddo.  The highlight (for me anyway) was taking a walk on the beach and seeing a bald eagle sitting in a tree keeping an eye on things.  Very cool.  Tomorrow, my mom and stepdad should be up for a visit, air quality permitting.  Mom is on oxygen and can't be out when there is basically anything in the air.  Forecast looks good though.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, July 28, 2023 5:59 AM

Good morning

Huh!  It took the better part of the morning over coffee to dig Imgur back up again, but By George, I'm thinking I've got it.

Yep, that's my CC and Ju-Ju!  Two of my favorite girls and my favorite picture.  How could it not be? 

And yes, that ride was moving while taken.  Sometimes you just get lucky while snapping one.  Gives new meaning to capturing the moment, in my worldLaugh

I'm back up running and could be DangerousWhistling 

 

Have a great Friday gentlemanYes

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, July 28, 2023 6:08 AM

Water Level Route
The only non-New York Central locomotive I've had on the layout is a Boston & Maine RS-3, but I justified that with a trackage rights agreement in the backstory of my layout.

The NYC leased plenty of B&M locomotives over the years. I remember seeing them in Collinwood along with some Bangor & Aroostok Geeps plus some Great Northern locos. No need to feel like you have to stretch a fantasy story. 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, July 28, 2023 6:26 AM

Yes

Then let's kick the tires and light the fires, as a figure of speech.

Don't have to start ripping boards out of the floor until about 8:30-9:00.

Plenty of time for more coffee hereYes

 

B&W pics not taken by me.  How could they be?

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, July 28, 2023 8:41 AM

B&O has daily regiments, and BO has Right Guard.

Play it again Sam!

If it isn't broke, Don't fix it!

 

Some bigger Kids, somewhere, have bigger layoutsLaugh

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, July 28, 2023 9:01 AM

When I was a kid, a neighbor had a basement empire and he had a GG-1 with cantenary.  Cantenary looks cool but I can't see myself doing it.

Kevin I thought of you and geckos.  There's a guy on late night TV, Tyrus, used to be a pro wrestler.  He raises and breeds for weird colors.  He showed a couple pics of $500 geckos.  WildCard Geckos if anyone is interested. https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/358602856_651069547131942_5398297300403064602_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=100&cb=99be929b-3346023f&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=ql3UXqsYqOMAX8xneBB&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfD2Ue2hmcCb90e-qbSjbOkKOq3fijs3j9COe3crPq73sw&oe=64C93892

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