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Open hopper colors?
Posted by Morpar on Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:18 PM

So I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 undecorated Athearn blue box 40' offset side quad hoppers which will likely get some paint put on them before too long. I am familiar with black hoppers in real life, but for the time period these were in use were there significant numbers in other colors? Maybe boxcar red or silver? Yellow or blue would be nice too! I would like to add some color, but don't really want to go too far from prototypical. Any good suggestions? I know my wife wants me to make something pink too, but I was leaning more toward covered hoppers or boxcar for those.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:33 PM

There's orange:

 Waddell Coal-107 by Edmund, on Flickr

I did look into these cars and if I recall correctly there were ten of them painted this way. Another outfit, Blue Coal, used a blue dye as a marketing gimmic but I'm not sure if they actually had blue hopper cars.

 IMG_2472 by Edmund, on Flickr

In other words, I think the blue hopper shown above is a "foobie".

 

I recall seeing some Rock Island hoppers in bright blue but these would be more modern than your Athearn models.

 

 

I see Red...

 Red Rule by Lance, on Flickr

Possibly yellow for Peabody Short Line:

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=10365&Categoryid=51

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:42 PM

If you are decorating them for prototype railroads, the practice of the railroad being modeled will dictate the color used.

If you are decorating them for a freelance railroad, and you want to look "right", black it is. Some were boxcar red, maybe some silver, but black will look correct.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, August 13, 2022 11:26 PM

I seem to remember NYC hoppers in red.

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, August 13, 2022 11:37 PM

The vast overwhelming majority of open top hoppers were either black or some shade of boxcar red.  The outlier cars were usually very small fleets in limited service.  The 40 ft, 70 ton offset quad was a WW1-1920's era car that would have been obsolete by the time the colorful cars of the 1970's came along.

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Posted by csxns on Sunday, August 14, 2022 8:54 AM

The L&N had some orange coal hoppers.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, August 14, 2022 6:30 PM

As mentioned, black or some form of boxcar red were the most-used colours for hoppers and gondolas.
I'm modelling the late'30s, and have some home road hoppers (freelance) in boxcar red, along with similar-coloured cars used by some real railroads.
I also have a lot of interchange with a couple of prototype roads. 

One is Canadian National, which painted their hoppers and gondolas black, but in 1940, changed both types to some form of boxcar red/brown.
On my layout, only the CNR black ones are seen.
I also have an interchange with my prototype hometown TH&B Railway, and their hoppers and gondolas were black right from their beginning, and right into their absorption into the CPR. 
Here's a few of the 12 TH&B hoppers that I built by modifying Bowser (originally Stewart) kits...

Depending on your modelling era, you could probably slip-in a few of those more brightly-coloured ones.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Sunday, August 14, 2022 7:02 PM

What about brown?

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Posted by dti406 on Sunday, August 14, 2022 7:37 PM

Both the Minneapolis & St Louis and the Burlington had bright red coal hoppers in the late 50's.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Sunday, August 14, 2022 8:22 PM

PRR went from "Freight Car Color" (their version of "Boxcar Red") to bLACK

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, August 15, 2022 10:04 AM

Black or brown/boxcar red would be the most common in the steam to early transition eras. Later, as railroads started to have their own individual railroad colors (as opposed to painting cars based on the type of car - caboose red cabooses, boxcar red boxcars, etc.) cars were sometimes painted in brighter colors.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Monday, August 15, 2022 5:45 PM

Hello All,

Morpar
I would like to add some color, but don't really want to go too far from prototypical.

Keep in mind hoppers are and were work-a-day cars, nothing fancy or flashy.

Modern coal hoppers are unpainted aluminum with one end painted to signify the rotary coupler, usually red or yellow.

Older hoppers were painted for utilitarian purposes not so much for aesthetics, with some exceptions.

My fleet of HO Tyco operating hoppers are colored in: silver (Virginian), blue (Boston & Main), battleship gray (Monon), black (DT&I, C&O, and Reading), gray (Spreckles Sugar), and white (Holly Sugar).

Typically hoppers aren't washed; other than rain, so bright colors will fade and weather as they are in service.

As many say, "My railroad, my rules."

If you (or your wife) want a fleet of pink hoppers then so be it.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by azrail on Monday, August 15, 2022 5:49 PM

Santa Fe used mineral brown (its standard freight car color)

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